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Toolbar greyed for all sites?
Google's toolbar not showing PR anymore?
cigjonser




msg:1103129
 11:34 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does anyone else see the toolbar greyed out for all sites? I'm not getting anything.

 

sunny_kat




msg:1103429
 12:01 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Oops "Alexa is one of the best tool for traffic analysis of a website and i personally dont think that they would get into this page rank stuff as this more important for Search engines to do so"

bobothecat




msg:1103430
 12:05 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Alexa is one of the best tool for traffic analysis of a website

You're kidding, right? :)

sunny_kat




msg:1103431
 12:06 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not at all buddy

Just search your website in alexa and see the results you are offered, i hope you are talking about www.alexa.com only

LostOne




msg:1103432
 12:59 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

I look at Alexa from time to time, but it's too ripe for manipulation. I wonder how they rank?

Avg. Review for alexa.com:
Traffic Rank for : No Data

Webdetective




msg:1103433
 1:00 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's done this before in the past for extended periods of time so I'd recommend hanging onto your Google toolbar. The PR meter will likely come back.

leoo24




msg:1103434
 1:07 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

alexa is next to useless!

Namaste




msg:1103435
 1:11 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

PR has gone and taken a whole industry with it. Appears to be a smart move on G's part, but in reality is quite a dumb move.

Google is trying to move SEO out of the "game"...and the day the day the game dies, Google becomes just another company.

But this was bound to happen. Corporate mangers give brilliantly logical arguments that kill intuition. No company has matured without becoming corporatised.

Macguru




msg:1103436
 1:19 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>Google is trying to move SEO out of the "game"...

My bet is it will come back as a paying option on some softwares using licenced API.

Google needs to diversify income sources. ;)

Sobriquet




msg:1103437
 1:19 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Has anyone contacted google?

Have G people anywhere published any information about removal or error in PR status?

Their site still wants you to download toolbar and they still say that you can check PR on it the features sections.

If they had removed the PR system, they wud have ( ideally ) changed the features page on their site .

any news from them .. anywhere?

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:1103438
 1:23 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

After three days surfing without it I now realise that I did actually use it to get an initial indication of a site's quality. Come back GTB, all is forgiven :(

kgougakis




msg:1103439
 1:34 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

i think that they want to find a way to make money from pr until now it was something with no profit for them and its time like in all other companies to take the advance to take our money at last for something so valiable for us webmasters!

VikasMosaic




msg:1103440
 1:41 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

That the PR is dead is a long awaited move and one that probably will help arrest spam and link selling.

It will make the task of serious link building just a little tougher.

I believe it will start the trend of evaluating sites rather than pages for the link exchange or one way links.

So what will not mattter now is the page that your link exists on but the site it exists on.( Anyway that is how probably google counts them) but just that we in SEO community are obstinate enough not to factor that in.

Link building will now have to focus on site factors and not page factors. I have started a thread in link development to list the strategies that can be used to evaluate sites now.

However the game has taken another turn.

Brett what do you think( from your earlier post in this thread). Are we all ranting.

Will they bring it back.

dbdev




msg:1103441
 1:44 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

All grey here aswell in Ontario, Canada.

dataguy




msg:1103442
 2:09 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

I predict that PR will be showing in the toolbar soon and the most amazing thing will be how quickly things will go back to normal. Within two weeks of its re-appearance most people will forget that it ever happened.

Every once in a while I'll have a server that goes down for a day or two before it can be brought back online. Like most webmasters, every minute that my web site is down is agonizing for me, and my World is a totally different place without my "baby".

Whenever the web site is finally brought back online, no one mentions its disappearance. I'll immediately get a question from a web visitor who is totally obliviouos to the outage. Within 5 minutes, it will make a sale, within 10 minutes hackers will be trying to get into the server, and I'll be able to relax as my World is free to continue as if it was never interrupted.

This Toolbar PR missing in action is just a minor blip. It is just part of the forward movement that is the Internet...

Matahari




msg:1103443
 2:20 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Since all is still grey on the PR front, I was wondering if GoogleGuy has anything to say about this. We would love to know what's behind the disappearance of the li'l green bar (oh, I miss it!).

Of course, now that the "quality" of a site will mainly be determined from its content, relevance and popularity, site evaluation for link building will only become more interesting and purposeful.

Any more thoughts on a future without the green bar for all link builders?

Matahari

Macguru




msg:1103444
 2:26 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>Any more thoughts on a future without the green bar for all link builders?

[webmasterworld.com...]
===

I bet future is 0X cents per page, for those who really needs to know.

GuluGulu




msg:1103445
 2:33 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Instead of PageRank, they are probably coming with a new ranking system called

TrustRank

be prepare for this.

Macguru




msg:1103446
 2:38 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not that I want to offend you GuluGulu, or anyone else, but, IMHO, TrustRank is just plain blog noise. It's just a trademark they registered. I still can see as many spam on top as before, since over 6 years.

leoo24




msg:1103447
 3:15 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

you know how some tools are reporting double digit figures, i think one reported 69/10 for one of my pages, what if they were changing it to be out of 100? would sure make it easier to determine a strong pr6 for example vs a weak pr6

Macguru




msg:1103448
 3:19 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>i think one reported 69/10

Prior to last friday?

If the input is missing, no wonder the tool gets bamboozled.

bsterz




msg:1103449
 3:19 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Some look at a greybar and see a PR0, some look at a greybar and see a PR10..

I hope Alexa has beefed up their servers :)

ideavirus




msg:1103450
 3:26 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Oops, I have the same problem since a couple of days.
I was under the impression that i have connectivity problems or my toolbar was dead!

Looks like ... its an issue with Google!

1zorro1




msg:1103451
 3:30 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Personally, I find Yahoo Search, and sometimes even MSN search far more accurate and relevent for most queries."

Too true Chris.

Yahoo and definitely MSN are returning MUCH more relevant results these days. They have been for a while now. Google has had it's heyday.

z

limitup




msg:1103452
 3:32 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

PR blah blah blah ... all I know is that overall, the quality of Google's search results are not that great. And they seem to be getting worse. I wonder how long it will be before Joe blow decides to "Yahoo it" instead of "google it"...

Oh that's too funny, posted at the same time as your message lol

sem4u




msg:1103453
 3:39 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

All grey here. I can't say that it is a huge surprise to me if we don't see any green in that toolbar again.

CanadianChris




msg:1103454
 3:42 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Greyed out for me too :( I tried queries the datacenters directly with the pagerank lookup tool on #*$! and it had the same result. So it's not just the toolbar that's broken.

Macguru




msg:1103455
 3:43 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

I guess so too, sem4you. Try most online PR checkers. A lot of them shows a 403 Forbiden error in their scripts.

Gentlemens, sharpen your credit cards. Google stopped giving it away. ;)

car insurance




msg:1103456
 3:50 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was an early adopter of Google. Now I'm an early re-adopter of Yahoo. It seems to display the most relevant, up-to-date search engine results these days. Kind of like Google was a year ago.

I don't know what Google's problem is, but if I had to guess, I'd say they have overthought everything. It's likely part of the natural cyclical process of getting too many PhDs into a room together. At first they come up with some really good, practical ideas and then when those ideas are exhausted they start getting too theoretical and then the practical usefulness of what they're working on goes out the window.

antonaf




msg:1103457
 3:59 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Here's a message on a site (ranking-hits.de)...its written in German so I had to translate the page in English:

Newest rumor: Jeffrey Anthony Bean, distinguished more engineer, Google's of system lab Series says"We need all available of server (inclusive the PAGE-Rank server!) for material big index operation, so there is NO way to show the PAGE-Rank NEXT time, but when these operations are done, incoming goods could use them to show PAGE-Rank again "

I think its just a rumor as its states. It seems to just be more speculation and not actual fact.

mm1220




msg:1103458
 4:22 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Put us out of our misery G. Tell us what you're up to!

vivalasvegas




msg:1103459
 4:25 pm on May 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

<quote>I was an early adopter of Google. Now I'm an early re-adopter of Yahoo. It seems to display the most relevant, up-to-date search engine results these days. Kind of like Google was a year ago.
I don't know what Google's problem is, but if I had to guess, I'd say they have overthought everything. It's likely part of the natural cyclical process of getting too many PhDs into a room together. At first they come up with some really good, practical ideas and then when those ideas are exhausted they start getting too theoretical and then the practical usefulness of what they're working on goes out the window.
</quote>

I totally agree.

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