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Toolbar 2.0
New beta version of the toolbar
GoogleGuy

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Msg#: 377 posted 3:35 pm on Jun 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

*cough*
[toolbar.google.com...]
*cough*

Not much new from a webmaster perspective, but the beta includes pop-up killing, auto form-filling, and some other fun things. :)

[It's a beta, so things may change between now and the final version. Let us know what you think at toolbar-beta at google.com though. ]

 

GoogleGuy

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Msg#: 377 posted 11:57 pm on Jun 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

bwelford, it might be that no one has done a spam report for that page yet, or if it was recent, then it might not have been processed yet.. :)

Web Footed Newbie

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Msg#: 377 posted 2:47 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks GG, going to go load it now.

It's funny, and speaks to your admiration by all the others here at WW, that you can post a link and not get edited!

Take care, WFN :)

Slud

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Msg#: 377 posted 4:56 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Rock.

Releases like this remind me why I'm such a Google fanboy.

Though still in its early stages, it's hard to overestimate how significant future incarnations of that Blog button will be.

Add it up...

+Per page comments
+Searchable backlinks
+PageRank (personalized?)
+Cached snapshots (?)

Is Google about to come full circle and become a method for ranking comments about web pages?

A widely-used attack-proof comment system could radically change the web back into what Tim Berners-Lee intended it to be: a many to many medium where writing is as common as reading.

Political, economic, social... it's hard to think of an area that could not be shaken up by some lively (contextual too!) two-way debate.

Example: What would it mean if a surfer could readily read a post from someone they trusted explaining that the site they were viewing was just 1 of 50 from the same company.

I'm probably reading too much in to a single button on a beta release, but *wow*, this could be as big as Google Search itself.

P.S. Love the ability to change the userid for folding@home.

amznVibe

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Msg#: 377 posted 5:33 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

What I was asking for earlier was this address:
[toolbar.google.com...]

Obviously you'd have to manually change the version number as new releases come out. But allowing activex in a networked business environment is just begging for trouble, there are tons of loopholes via activex that no other script language on IE has. We block it on all PCs. So for network admin, the direct url is a must.

New toolbar looks/works great. Only extra option I want is the ability to remove/reduce the huge "search web" button.

Blogger button is okay, and can't blame Google for promoting all they have to offer, but I suspect most advanced webmasters here have turned to more powerful environments like moveabletype, geeklog or similar local hosting solutions. Maybe give us the ability to edit the url it generates :) Otherwise it becomes the first thing to be turned off...

Last but not least, the first thing a virus writer is now going to go for is the stored data within the Google toolbar, hoping to score credit card info. Be realistic, does Google really want that kind of legal resposibility?

hetzeld

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Msg#: 377 posted 6:19 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

amznvibe,

Here's another link:
[toolbar.google.com...]

Dan

DaveN

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Msg#: 377 posted 7:45 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is the toolbar still collecting data about which sites you visit and Ip address.

DaveN

perfecttommy

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Msg#: 377 posted 8:33 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

DaveN - Is the toolbar still collecting data about which sites you visit and Ip address.

So, I'm confused by DaveN question (well, there was no question mark, so maybe it was a statement or an inside joke?)

It seems hard to miss the repeated warnings about privacy with the page rank feature. I think I counted 3 places it warned.
- installing (the yada-yada cracks me up, :)
- in the help menu under "privacy"
- when trying to enable page rank
- in the help pages talking about the page rank button
(ok 4, but there are probably more)

Also, maybe I missed another thread, but how can Google return the page rank for a page I visit if the toolbar doesn't tell them the url?

webbie

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Msg#: 377 posted 8:43 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Googleguy, will a "recommend this page" button be added?
And the problem with blogger is still that we can not add directly the accents (French ones, etc.), we have to add "&eacute;" , etc. and it's so long as we have a lot lot lot of accents in French!
Why blogger is not a wysiwig software? I have another weblog which is wysiwig and it's better!

Namaste

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Msg#: 377 posted 10:02 am on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

GG, how about working on the toolbar for Mozilla and incorporating PR in it?

Why such little support for MozDev?

celerityfm

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:11 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I love it! The blogger button and new options dialog is my favorite :)

It integrates into MyIE2 [myie2.com] with only 1 issue as far as I can tell-- the toolbar refuses to "share" with other bars like menu bar, address bar, standard buttons-- it won't "sit next" to the other ones like it used to.

It works fine in IE6, which is your target audience as far as I can tell, but I thought I'd share this myie2 bug to see if anyone else encountered it. I also emailed toolbar-beta@google.com too.

Good going!

note: Reposted because somehow I didn't reply to this topic when I originally made this message

ncsuk

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:19 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just tried to install it and it could not add itself to the registry properly because I dont have "administrative rights" <--- Which I do.

I'd shout at you GG for making something that doesnt work but I think I'll settle in the knowledge its probably XP being useless. (Personal Opinion)

muesli

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:26 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

just a little thought, googleguy:

if this toolbar (or outher pop-up-blocking tools) gets too popular that might well wipe away a wide range of very useful (ad-funded) services on the web. we all know that they are stuggeling enough theses days to reach or maintain profitability. if you block one of their main ad products, this might kill lots of them.

in other words: if there was an ability to block TV program interruptions (or, as there is already, if it was widespread), many TV stations would go bust.

personally i wouldn't mind that much about TV stations but the web has already lost some very valuable services whose business case wasn't solid enough.

Slud

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:41 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I hope widespread pop-up blocking doesn't result in *more* obnoxious advertising: interstitials, animated div's, etc.

ncsuk

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:53 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Personally I would like to have all and any popups removed completly becauase they are a waste of time. Otherwise you should be able to specify per site if you would like to see them or not.

Its common curtesy really, would you want to walk into a clothes shop and have a saleperson stick a kipper in your face. I think not...!

bcolflesh

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Msg#: 377 posted 2:25 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just wish they would kill popups like the focus popups that Google uses in it's Usenet archives.

What is a focus popup? I've never seen anything like that in Google Groups - just curious.

Regards,
Brent

wingslevel

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Msg#: 377 posted 3:02 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have used several pop-up blockers and this one is soooo much better!

On my sites there is a larger image link to jscript which pops a box with the larger image - the googlebar lets these come up - all of my old blockers stopped these wanted pop-ups too - it seems to be able to differentiate somehow...

coolasafanman

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Msg#: 377 posted 4:07 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

if this toolbar (or outher pop-up-blocking tools) gets too popular that might well wipe away a wide range of very useful (ad-funded) services on the web. we all know that they are stuggeling enough theses days to reach or maintain profitability. if you block one of their main ad products, this might kill lots of them.

hmm, MSN is funded by lots of popups...

dougb

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Msg#: 377 posted 4:08 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

if this toolbar (or outher pop-up-blocking tools) gets too popular that might well wipe away a wide range of very useful (ad-funded) services on the web. we all know that they are stuggeling enough theses days to reach or maintain profitability. if you block one of their main ad products, this might kill lots of them.

For me (not that you asked me :)), it comes down to this: No site should be entitled to destroy my experience on the Web by opening new windows without my consent. There are sites out there that currently make ends meet serving pop-up ads, sure, but the ones that are truly useful will adapt to a world where a little common decency is imposed by the community. By joining AdSense, perhaps :)

aroach

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Msg#: 377 posted 4:32 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oops.

I accidently clicked to allow pop-ups on a site where I really don't want to see them. There does not seem to be a way to undo this.

What happened was I saw where it said "1 blocked" and clicked the button to see what was blocked. Instead it allowed pop-ups on that site when I clicked. Now I can't fix it.

SEOtop10

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Msg#: 377 posted 5:22 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

How about an option (drop-down) to select the data-center from which I want the PR to be displayed ;-)

Toolbar 2 is cool. I really loved the blogger function. I was not maintaining my blog earlier because it was lots of work. Not anymore.

flowilu

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Msg#: 377 posted 6:02 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I wonder if Freshbot visits the weblog when I create a post with the blogger button.

jimh009

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Msg#: 377 posted 6:32 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not sure if this is a problem with the Toolbar or a problem with the User (me).

The popup blocker works great. But - - how do I clear the listing that shows the number blocked. Since installing the new toolbar, the number just keeps climbing and climbing. Does it ever reset, or will it just keep going up and up and up? It would be nice to have the thing reset at every site to show how many pop-ups were blocked on a particular site. I don't need or want a running total of how many popups have been blocked since the toolbar was installed!

Anyone have any ideas on this?

Thanks.

Jim

mahlon

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Msg#: 377 posted 6:57 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)


Well, I got a popup!

It was a flash popup, so I guess there is no way around that?

ulstrup

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Msg#: 377 posted 8:32 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

The 2.0 shows PageRank for www2 serps, www-ex serps, www-fi serps, etc. my 1.0 didn't.

The pop-up killer is great :)

steveb

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 377 posted 9:11 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Will the toolbar pop-up blocker block gator pop-ups?

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 377 posted 9:38 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

More on the toolbar blocker.

I was having a play on the Kartoo website - did a search and got the results - tried to click on a result and bam page got blocked as if it was a pop up.

Now I dont use Flash much but I wonder if there is compatibility problem with flash and target="blank" (if that is how you would code it in flash)?

Tropical Island

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Msg#: 377 posted 10:38 pm on Jun 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Downloaded it this morning. Was a little confused at first if I could just download it on top of my regular Google toolbar. Couldn't find any instructions one way or the other. Went ahead and it downloaded fine.

Just love it!

Haven't had a popup blocker before and think it's the cat's ..s. Too bad CNN & Weather channel! You used to drive me crazy.

GodLikeLotus

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Msg#: 377 posted 10:51 am on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

I too have never used a pop-up killer and I think its great, nothing worse for me than intrusive ads about something I have no interest in.

Don't know about putting C/C details in, I think I'll give that part a miss for now.

coolasafanman

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Msg#: 377 posted 1:00 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

hmm the toolbar blocks the google ad words popup tutorial

[google.com...]

they really are an impartial jury - a pop up is a popup. i do like when u say allow n it then puts the PU thru.

roscoepico

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 377 posted 2:03 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seems as though someone found away around the popup blocker as of this AM. I am getting popups that look exactly like Ad Words but are not Ad Words...Here is an example:

[featured-results.com...]

Funny, these results in the popup are an exact mirror of Overture's top 5 for the term "tools"

coolasafanman

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Msg#: 377 posted 2:31 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

one thing to consider is that many people that exchange links with one another have the partner link show in a new browser window, so that their site isn't completely lost in the transfer. i do it all the time.

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