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BenG

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:07 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Firstly, hello as this is my first post here. I've been researching SEO techniques for 2 weeks now, seem to have got the hang of the general FAQ's.

A web partner recently *optimized* a site for us, it's a framed site URL snipped. I noticed that the actual content pages has had no work done on it - not even meta tags. They've only worked on the Frameset page (noframes content with links, meta tags etc.)

I may have got it wrong, but doesn't google and inktomi search frames and surely the content pages are the *priority* for optimization.

If anyone can clarify this it would be much appreciated.

regards
BenG

(edited by: NFFC at 1:12 pm (utc) on Mar. 1, 2002)

 

IanTurner

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:14 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Effectively only one of your pages has any real chance of being found.

Frames are tricky for SEs to navigate and so alternative methods of accessing the content pages are necessary.

The content pages need to be optimised as well - especially if the are being spidered.

Craig_F

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:21 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

> Effectively only one of your pages has any real chance of being found.

All your pages can be found, but you need to do 4 things to make sure it works well.

1) Each one should be optimized well.

2) You should include navigation to the main areas of your site is case the page is found outside of the frames.

3) Possibly consider a script to pop your page automatically back into the frameset if it is found outside the set.

4) If you want real SE success start building your new site without frames ;)

-Craig

BenG

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:28 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

thanks guys,

too late for re-design, but we are looking at include files for non-frame usage in the future. Thaks about the content info - it was as i suspected then.

We do have a javascript that will re-place the frameset.

They actually told the robot not to follow the content pages - seems like madness to me, since they sold us on their SEO skills.

BenG

PS snipped - so i shouldn't put urls in the posts then.

IanTurner

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:37 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

My policy is to avoid frames at all costs.

Especially if you have more than one frame which can change. This can get into a horrible mess if not worked correctly.

agerhart

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Msg#: 306 posted 1:39 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

My policy is to avoid frames at all costs.

Second that notion........avoid if possible.

Macguru

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Msg#: 306 posted 3:42 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

I used to optimise a lot of framed sites in the past. It required everything Craig_F mentionned and was a lot of extra work. I used to have exellent results from this on Google and still do on Fast.

Google now put less value on <NOFRAMES> tag or any 'less visible' content. So I try to avoid using frames unless absolutely necessary. The <IFRAME> can be very helpfull in many cases.

WebGuerrilla

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Msg#: 306 posted 7:27 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)


Your content page with a link to an external JS file containing

document.writeln('<frameset cols="25%,75%" BORDER="0" FRAMEBORDER="NO">')
document.writeln('<frame src="http://www.example.com/interior_page.html" scrolling=auto noresize>')
document.writeln('</frameset>')

= No <noframes> tag :)

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