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Is UK Yahoo showing Ink?
Unconfirmed sightings
keyplyr

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Msg#: 968 posted 6:55 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

For the last couple hours, I've been seeing
Inktomi title/description for my site.

 

IanTurner

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Msg#: 968 posted 8:59 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm still seeing Google here.

TravelSite

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:14 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seeing Google results (does yahoo have a beta page like msn?)

Iguana

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:19 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing non-Google too - since my pages don't figure at all on Inktomi I am very worried

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:20 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Only Google here.

makemetop



 
Msg#: 968 posted 9:30 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well - try UK searches, everyone. The directory title and description isn't there - just the standard SE listing using title and meta description (for me). Not sure it is INK though - but it is different.

Default search (worldwide) still the same as before (Google) with Yahoo title/desc for sites in the directory.

Iguana

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:34 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Different index from Positiontech/MSN but definite Inktomi. I can tell easily because I have gone from #1 to non-existent on all my phrases

ritch_b

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:34 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Same here - something's afoot Watson, but I'm not sure if it's Ink...

R.

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:37 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am getting Google results still :¦

edit_g

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:43 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Uk searches are bringing up something different, for sure. Not Google at all... Dang... :(

Dayo_UK

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:48 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can see that the descriptions are not taken from the Yahoo directory in a UK search, but I am definetly getting Google and the search technology provided by Google small print is still at the bottom of the serps page.

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Msg#: 968 posted 9:57 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google small print is still at the bottom of the serps page.

Yes, I'm aware of that. What lead me to assume the results were Ink is that Google has my new description, and Ink is still using the one from last week - which is appearing at Yahoo UK; a one word difference, but still a difference.

Of course, maybe the Google results Yahoo UK is using are just old?

TravelSite

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Msg#: 968 posted 10:01 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

The small print at the page bottom would be the last thing to be changed (especially if its just testing things out).

Yahoo's uk search is only showing all ".co.uk" domains - has this always been the case?

Iguana

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Msg#: 968 posted 10:04 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe it is Google - the snippets are the same

But it is a very different index from that showing on Google - mainly because all except one of my pages has been obliterated!

engine

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Msg#: 968 posted 10:11 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Slurp has been busy recently.
There's always a the possibility it is an entirely different and new db for Y.

TallTroll

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Msg#: 968 posted 11:04 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see the usual Google feed, and recently updated too

Robber

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Msg#: 968 posted 11:29 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Looks like Ink to me - very slightly different description and positions to pure Ink search - but almost spot on.

Bobby_Davro

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Msg#: 968 posted 11:55 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Actually, those are the Fast UK search results I believe.

Compare them to the results on www.eibon.co.uk which uses a UK filtered Fast feed, and there is a definite correlation. Not exactly the same order, but the same titles and descriptions appearing.

[edited by: Bobby_Davro at 11:59 am (utc) on Aug. 5, 2003]

edit_g

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Msg#: 968 posted 11:58 am on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok guys. We've gone a long way to narrowing this down.

The results are either:

Fast UK
Ink
Google
Some "crazy" Google
Something Completely New
Something Else

We've done well. ;)

TravelSite

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Msg#: 968 posted 1:28 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

LOL :)

Knowing Yahoo its probably a combination of all of them!

xcandyman

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Msg#: 968 posted 1:38 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Getting some changes in listings. Dosn't look like Fast to me more like a updated Google.

Steve

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Msg#: 968 posted 1:41 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think its just Google.co.uk uk search with only the ".co.uk" extensions showing.

Checked a phrase in inktomi, alltheweb and google.co.uk uk search - and it matches google.co.uk exactly (once you subtract any non .co.uk extension from the google results).

[edited by: TravelSite at 1:42 pm (utc) on Aug. 5, 2003]

Iguana

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Msg#: 968 posted 1:41 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Looks like updated Google to me now

makemetop



 
Msg#: 968 posted 1:45 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Try doing the same search on AOL UK selecting UK only and Yahoo UK selecting UK only. The order is slightly different, but the listings layout (snippets) appear pretty identical to me!

I am pretty sure it is still Google being pulled from different data centres - and Yahoo are getting prepared to plug in something new :)

This is just the start!

Terrier

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Msg#: 968 posted 2:43 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Does not look like google ink or atw to me.

The title and descriptions comes from the yahoo directory where listed. The mix however I think is something NEW.

TravelSite

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Msg#: 968 posted 2:58 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok then ... I'll prove that its google!

Type the following into both Google Uk-Search and Yahoo Uk search:

blue-widgets

You will notice that results (including ranking order) are identical. The only difference is that Yahoo removes any ".net", ".com", ".org" extensions - it only likes the .co.uk extensions :)

Is everyone seeing this (or are folk seeing different results?)

I also like the second site that comes up in the results :)

incywincy

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Msg#: 968 posted 4:01 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

i will never understand why some search engines are so dumb as to use a crude domain extension to EXCLUDE a site. i have a .com that is a uk only site. this is of course excluded from yahoo.co.uk results for uk websites. uk google isn't so dumb.

i presume then that yahoo get the feed from google and then exclude any non .co.uk results.

IanTurner

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Msg#: 968 posted 4:56 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

incywincy,

A more detailed discussion on placement in UK Engines is here.

[webmasterworld.com...]

But basically you are correct in saying that some engines geo-filter on .uk domain and some by geo-locating the server (if a little erratically on occasion - there are a number of disucssions on the success/otherwise of Google's UK Geo-Filtering both for SERPs and for Adwords.)

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Msg#: 968 posted 10:33 pm on Aug 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Results for my (US) site are back to Yahoo directory.

keyplyr

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Msg#: 968 posted 7:39 am on Aug 6, 2003 (gmt 0)


Also, twice now, flashed a new version of the Y! logo - this one with SBC sitting on top the upper left-hand corner. The is on Y! Home, prior to SERP. Looks to me like their developers are geeting things ready.

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