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.co.uk and .com mirrored
If you have mydomain.co.uk and mydomain.com with mirrored site is this bad?
geoffhodbod

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Msg#: 899 posted 2:55 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have mydomain.com and I am worring about not getting listed in UK based search engines. So I am thinking about buying mydomain.co.uk and having the .com site mirrored at the .co.uk site. Can this get me penalized by Google or any other search engine?

Is there a best way of doing this that will not get you penalized? Is it safest to have the same content mirrored on two servers? Or is there some way of refering from both addresses to the same the content?

 

div01

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Msg#: 899 posted 3:28 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you have the same content on two different domains, you're quite likely to get the "duplicate penalty".

xy123

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Msg#: 899 posted 3:34 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you have the .com I wouldnt bother with the .co.uk. You're better off focussing your effort on getting a single site listed higher. And people in the UK dont have a bias against .com sites, or at least its much less than the bias seen in the US against .co.uk sites as compared to .com sites.

If you're going to run a linking campaign to build PR, which site will you be seeking links to? Quite apart from running the risk of a duplicate content ban.

geoffhodbod

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Msg#: 899 posted 3:45 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

So would it be better to ditch the .com and just have a .co.uk This would be a pain as I'd have to change the company's email, website address stationery brochures etc.

xy123

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Msg#: 899 posted 3:58 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you already have the .com I'd keep it.

But if you are UK based and havent really established the .com yet, then maybe it would be worth switching. Also depends on how important to you it is to attract non-uk traffic.

makemetop



 
Msg#: 899 posted 4:31 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

>people in the UK dont have a bias against .com sites

Depends on the market - but some people certainly do have a bias. Including some search engines in the UK.

Eleveeze Preslee

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Msg#: 899 posted 6:15 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

why cant you just do a 301 from the .com to the .co.uk?

hutcheson

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Msg#: 899 posted 7:29 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

1) Keep both domains. There's no necessary penalty involved. At worst, Google might split your page rank across them, giving you two low-ranking listings rather than one higher listing, but they're really pretty good at detecting duplicates (ESPECIALLY if you give them the 301 status as mentioned.) And people might misremember and type in one domain rather than the other -- you'd like them to still find your site.

2) Promote only one of them -- the .co.uk if most of your business is in the UK (because some search engines will automatically include or boost .co.uk domains in their regional search results.)

3) Do a permanent redirect rather than a mirror.

McMohan

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Msg#: 899 posted 5:24 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Whether co.uk or .com really matter? If it did, then I guess ODP will be the first candidate to get penalized for having .org and .com (Am I missing something?)

Mc

Shak

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Msg#: 899 posted 12:03 pm on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

makemetop did explain it above, but just to clarify:

A number of Google Fed search destinations will NOT, repeat NOT show any other domain apart from a .co.uk or .org.uk when a visitor chooses the option "results/pages from the UK"

If you are looking to do business in the UK, then (imo) a UK domain is a MUST, relying on just hosting a .com or .net in the UK is NO longer enough.

Shak

TheWhippinpost

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Msg#: 899 posted 12:33 pm on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

This seems to be a case of where dupe content shouldn't be penalised IMO - An entity wishing to protect their brand - not to mention as a convenience to their users - would naturally want to own both .com & .co.uk (I'm coming from a UK perspective here).

I can see a case for having dupe content with the only minor differences being for eg... currency denominations (or even the pesky way the Americans insist on mispelling "centre" :))

geoffhodbod

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Msg#: 899 posted 1:18 pm on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your replies.

I am thinking about following this advice from Hucheson:

1) Keep both domains. There's no necessary penalty involved. At worst, Google might split your page rank across them, giving you two low-ranking listings rather than one higher listing, but they're really pretty good at detecting duplicates (ESPECIALLY if you give them the 301 status as mentioned.) And people might misremember and type in one domain rather than the other -- you'd like them to still find your site.
2) Promote only one of them -- the .co.uk if most of your business is in the UK (because some search engines will automatically include or boost .co.uk domains in their regional search results.)

3) Do a permanent redirect rather than a mirror.

The mydomain.com has been around for a couple of years. It only has 5 pages. It does appear highly under 10 some quite specificly targetted keyphrases in search engines. All the pages at the moment have a 0 PR.

So would starting to promote the mydomain.co.uk with duplicated pages from the already existing .com by submitting that to search engines, Doing a link popularity campaign to the .co.uk mess up some of these high rankings for these already there 10 keyphrases that are on the already existing .com.

I will also add 10 pages of content that will show up on .com and .co.uk trying to rank highly for these keywords. Is this a bad idea?

ckarg

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Msg#: 899 posted 3:14 pm on Jun 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you're running a shopping site, .co.uk matters. We've seen some (i.e. visible, but not huge) search traffic that includes "site:.uk" in the search phrase...

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