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What keyword mgmt systems work on Google in UK/Europe
shorebreak




msg:256991
 10:16 am on Jul 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'd be interested to hear from advertisers & agencies as to what keyword management technology they're using to manage their AdWords campaigns. Google has ~55-58% marketshare in the U.S. but it seems as though they're closer to 75-85% in the UK & most European countries.

As such I imagine that presents a problem for people using tools that were conceived for Overture's transparent bid environment.

Any stories?

-Shorebreak

 

fergusferrier




msg:256992
 10:31 am on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are you telling me that ~half of US advertisers on AdWords are not using Google's interface? Where on earth did such a figure come from?

Maybe it's 50% of spending, as I could well imagine the $1m/mo+ advertisers *not* using the rather limited (in terms of scaling) Google interface.

Or ad agencies, that control about half the market, are using 3rd party software to control their clients accounts?

Who can say....

GaryTheScubaGuy




msg:256993
 11:05 am on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Since Googles interface has recently added the time feature (adjusting bids by % of max bid during certain time slots), plut the fact bid gapping and other bidding strategies that make ppc management software attractive, cannot work on Google, (you don't know what the competition is bidding, therefore you can use the tool), I think the interface that they provide, along with analytics is your best option.

GaryTheScubaGuy

tosspot17




msg:3000907
 10:00 am on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think the the percentages Shorebreak is quoting are the % of searches on Google by surfers, rather than the technology advertisers are using..?

shorebreak




msg:3001800
 9:26 pm on Jul 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sorry, I should've been clearer. The percentages I listed were of search marketshare.

The point I was making was along the lines of what Gary said; namely that I don't see how a system that requires knowledge from the search engine of what price gets what position can actually work on Google. Google's Traffic Estimator is broken, and you can't effectively use a rules-based bid mgmt system if it a)depends on knowing bid/price relationship; and b)uses Google's [broken] traffic estimation to figure out what volume each keyword can drive.

This is all the more of an issue in Europe because Google has such dominant marketshare there, which is why I'm asking the question. I suspect that either advertisers aren't aware of this [yet], or growth in keywords and traffic is making any SEM's management of a client's campaign look good right now. This was the case in the U.S. until mid to late 2004, at which point large PPC advertisers started to realize that their campaigns were plateauing once all the easy hits were had.

-shorebreak

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