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Pandia SE Awards
Brett_Tabke




msg:245705
 1:24 pm on Jan 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

[pandia.com...]


In March next year Pandia is going to present the second round of Pandia Awards to sites that excel in Internet searching, Web search guidance and search engine optimization information.

The following awards will be presented (2001 winners in brackets):

1 Best all round search site (Google)
2 Best professional search site (AltaVista)
3 Best metasearch site (first year)
4 Best site on searching (Search Engine Watch)
5 Best site on search engine optimization (first year)
6 Best search engine discussion forum (Webmaster World)
7 Best publication on searching (Alan M. Schlein)
8 Best publication on search engine optimization (first year)


 

Brett_Tabke




msg:245706
 1:41 pm on Jan 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

1: Google
2: Fast (full index and I think deeper than Google at some topics)
3: none (I don't know of one that doesn't use Goto any more - that taints them all as dead .coms walking)
4: Pandia. No, this isn't a plug for the sake of variety or reciprocation. They've not missed a major story all year long and have broken many. They have an extremely easy to use and attractive (no fuss) site.
5/6: WebmasterWorld. No, I'm not biased, I'm just informed. No other site on the net has more up-to-date info on optimization. From leading edge techniques, fringe techniques, old fashioned solid content building, to news as it happens - we have lead the net in optimization for the last year. In a little over a years time, wmw has become the market leader in search engine discussions. No other site has broken more SE stories in the last year. When journalists from Cnet, Wired, Los Angles Times, and the Associated Press want the insiders opinion, they have come here, time and time again. When search engines such as Fast, Google, About.com, Altavista, and Wisenut feel confident enough to post here (the only forum they do so) that is the highest endorsement we could ever receive. We do every thing we can to continue to earn that trust.
7: WiseNut White Paper. They took some ideas from every major searching concept put forth and spiced it with their own ideas. They've wrapped it tightly around a new system that I think is now leading the direction that all search engines will follow.
8: hmmm. I can't think of one that would be worthy of an award. (I'll think on it).

tedster




msg:245707
 8:32 am on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Agreement on everything but #3-metasearch. My vote goes to IXquick -- it's a gem, easy to understand, and mighty, mighty fast.

Yes, they do include some ppc on their default, first page search (Overture, Sprinks, FindWhat). But from then on you get to uncheck boxes and include only the search engines you want. That's a super feature.

In fact, checking ONLY the three ppc engines gives some good "down-and-dirty" market research.

Mike_Mackin




msg:245708
 9:33 am on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice work per!

My vote goes to IXquick as well.

pete




msg:245709
 11:48 am on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Id go along with you guys although I havent read the white paper from Wisenut (will do so) and havent really used IXQuick.

All the others seem on the money!

"In a little over a years time, WebmasterWorld has become the market leader in search engine discussions"

It still astounds me the way that this place has taken off and with the growth, how you guys have made improvements to help us disseminate all this content.

In an indifferent year, WMW has been incredible. A stand out and a leading example for anyone who has ambitions regarding building an online community.

What about predicting who the winners will be year end, 2002?

Hobbyist




msg:245710
 4:05 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

A little over a year?

Isn't Webmaster world at least 2 years old? I would think so judging from the date joined by most moderators and admins..

seth_wilde




msg:245711
 4:30 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

"Isn't Webmaster world at least 2 years old?"

Yep, but back then it was 20 people sitting around swapping SEO secrets... Brett's talking about when wmw achieved total domination :)

Here's my list:

1 Best all round search site
Google!!!!!!!!!

2 Best professional search site
Tie Google & Fast

3 Best metasearch site
I don't use meta engines..

4 Best site on searching
I think Pandia's the best... but since they probably can't give the award to themselves I would probably have vote for search engine watch as #2...

5 Best site on search engine optimization
The only site that I need to use is wmw

6 Best search engine discussion forum
wmw

7 Best publication on searching
no opinion...

8 Best publication on search engine optimization
Planet Ocean

heini




msg:245712
 5:05 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

1) Google
2) Alltheweb
3) metager (works well, has humor, drives real traffic(!))
4) pandia/at-web.de/voelspriet
5)/6) ;)
7) -
8) -

Brett_Tabke




msg:245713
 5:16 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

> 8 Best publication on search engine optimization
> Planet Ocean

Yes - even thought it's commercail - here here.

>atleast 2 years old.

We started over on sew for about 8 months (moved here in June of 2000 with about a whopping 500 total posts and 100 total members. Now we have almost 3k members that have logged into the system in the last 45 days).

Ove




msg:245714
 5:20 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

3k members ??

marlog




msg:245715
 10:33 pm on Jan 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

1 Best all round search site
Google

2 Best professional search site
Google

3 Best metasearch site
ixquick

4 Best site on searching Pandia

5 Best site on search engine optimization
Webmaster World

6 Best search engine discussion forum
Webmaster World

8 Best publication on search engine optimization
Planet Ocean

(ok, nothing new:-)

perkoch




msg:245716
 2:58 pm on Jan 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

I would just like to thank you all for very useful comments! Pandia is definitely listening.

Also warm thanks for your praise for Pandia, and no, alas, Pandia cannot give itself an award.

By the way, we have recently discovered that someone is spamming/campaigning the Pandia Poll for best search engine of the year 2002. We gave up counting when the metasearch engine Mamma.com got more than 500 votes. However, we will filter them out when we make up the score.

The final result of the poll will be used as an input to the final decision regarding who's going to get the award for best all round search engine, as will the discussions in this forum.

Brett_Tabke




msg:245717
 3:17 pm on Jan 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

I read that in your newsletter today and was taken a back by it. Mamma? I wonder if a technical glitch could explain it?

perkoch




msg:245718
 11:12 am on Jan 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

We doubt that it is a technical error. The Mamma entries varies as regards spelling (mamma, mamma.com, Mamma etc), indicating manual submissions. This could perfectly well be a campaign instigated by someone else than the Mamma.com site itself. We are not to upset about it.

Brad




msg:245719
 3:02 pm on Jan 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

#3 Vivisimo, although ixquick is a very close second.

makemetop




msg:245720
 6:16 pm on Jan 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mamma sent an e-mail to people who are in the Mamma directory (I got one) asking people to vote in the poll and not to forget them - providing a convenient link! That was probably why ;)

It didn't do automatic voting though - 'cos I voted for Ixquick :)

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