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Brett_Tabke




msg:241031
 3:23 pm on Dec 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

Search Engine Awards 2001:

1 Which search engine improved the most?
2 Which lost the most ground?
3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
4 Most insecure se?
5 Most secure?
6 Most creative?
7 The Fastest?
8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
9 Helped make you the most money?
10 New comer of the year?

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?

 

Brett_Tabke




msg:241032
 3:43 pm on Dec 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

Ok, I'll go first then.

1: Which search engine improved the most?
AllTheWeb made steady progress in 2001. Their expansion, relaunch, and pay-for-inclusion programs all have helped gel AllTheWeb into the Nets top tier of search engines.

2: Which lost the most ground?
Altavista. Are they even doing a million page views a day now? They lost many locations in the world market, obfuscated their own serps with advertising, and dropped many nice features.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Tie: AllTheWeb and Google. Both have been very responsive to suggestions.
AllTheWeb directly applied some suggestions found in these very forums. Every communication I've had with AllTheWeb has been positive in nature.
Google continues to mount an email assault. I call it an assault because their support inbox must be constantly filled. How they have been able to retain quality email correspondences at this point is a mystery. Most engines their size have given up to auto-responders and non responses.

4: Most insecure se?
Inktomi for leaving their spam database open (among other things).

5: Most secure?
The only major SE to pass a simple spider test of their domains was Google.

6: Most creative?
Google keeps pumping out the features.

7: The Fastest?
Tie: AllTheWeb vs Google. Both are almost instantaneous search results for me.

8: Most accurate at finding what you need?
Toss up, Fast in an almost a dead tie with Google. I currently find AllTheWeb's occasional "stray result" a blessing. Google results still seem corporate heavy. You can still get some 'fun sites' out of Fast when you just need something different.

9: Helped make you the most money?
Google. Hands down winner at cranking out the most referrals this year.

10: New comer of the year?
Toss up, WiseNut and Teoma. Both launched top-notch engines in this poor economic atmosphere.

11: Which se's will not be here in a year?
Altavista. Parent company CMGI is in trouble. No white knights to be found.

12: What will be 2002's big se surprise?
Google replacing Inktomi on MSN and AOL.

13: Panic of the year?
As everyone scrambles to understand Teoma when AskJeeves flips the switch.

Those are mine - what's yours?

engine




msg:241033
 5:13 pm on Dec 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

Brett, from a global point of view, your observations are pretty much on the button. I'll also add some UK flavour to this where relevant.

1: Which search engine improved the most?
Agreed about AllTheWeb and I'd add, from the UK point of view, Mirago. Seemed to be sending out it's spider more often to update the database, and traffic.

2: Which lost the most ground?
Altavista. Absolutely right on this one, followed by Excite and Excite UK [webmasterworld.com] and it's demise.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Agreed about the tie on AllTheWeb and Google. From a UK perspective, UK Plus directory tries hard.

4: Most insecure se?
Inktomi :)

5: Most secure?
Very interesting running a spider across the search engines. Google, agreed. :)

6: Most creative?
Agreed on Google, but, I'd also say Alltheweb has some fancy footwork too.

7: The Fastest?
Nothing faster than these two, considering the massive databases. Wisenut, not fast enough.

8: Most accurate at finding what you need?
For me, it's Google, and, as I often look for news, Northernlight.

9: Helped make you the most money?
Google.

10: Newcomer of the year?
My vote goes to WiseNut - it's got the potential to rival Fast and Google.

11: Which se's will not be here in a year?
Agreed about AltaVista. Seems to have lost it's way, despite being a real winner less than two years ago.

12: What will be 2002's big se surprise?
"Google replacing Inktomi on MSN and AOL." That would be a pleasant surprise.

13: Panic of the year?
When Wisenut starts to promote itself: Waking up to Wisenut.

toolman




msg:241034
 8:15 pm on Dec 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

11: Which se's will not be here in a year?

ODP will start to wither. Alta's history.

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?

Yahoo will become customer service oriented (yeah right)

Liane




msg:241035
 8:32 pm on Dec 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

I agree with pretty much everything, but I'll add that I think Yahoo is in more trouble than most think. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if its gone or bought out by year end 2002.

I also think MSN is going to rally and surprise a lot of us.

startup




msg:241036
 12:59 am on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

11 to 13 are the hard ones.
11- Hotbot will be gone. I know in many ways it already is dead but, they will finally pull the plug on this "has been" SE.

12-(startup crawls way out on a limb and firmly attaches a new bungie cord)
Who buys AV. Too many patents to let this one just die, the new owners will be after the technology.

13- "Redmond (you know who I mean)", again! Smart updates will inbed a new and even more dangerous version of "Smart Tags" with the latest upgrade. The public will never know the difference and all this coupled with ATT/Comcast using MSN as the default SE.

bill




msg:241037
 5:32 am on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

From Japan...
1 Which search engine improved the most?
Lycos Japan I know this is a really recent development, but Lycos Japan's adoption of WiseNut results has really lifted this engine out of obscurity. In terms of SERPS for Japanese, this is the best thing to happen to the Japanese SE industry since Google.

2 Which lost the most ground?
AltaVista results were dropped from MSN Japan, thus reducing their exposure to a few obscure Japanese interfaces. AV has Japanese interface options of its own, but they are very hard to locate for most Japanese.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Google has gone all out to localize it's help and interface into Japanese.

6 Most creative?
Google They've even gone so far as to develop specific Japanese niche SEs, like their i-mode search engine that is not only a SE, but parses regular web sites to make them viewable on i-mode phones.

7 The Fastest?
Google

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
A tossup between goo and Google. Goo can still deliver some very good results depending on your search.

9 Helped make you the most money?
Google leads the Japanese market for traffic for me.

10 New comer of the year?
WiseNut/Lycos Japan Even though it just happened, the addition of WiseNut results to Lycos Japan should perk up the SE wars in Japan.

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
FreshEye has moved from being a supplier like Inktomi, to being limited to their own site. Unless they can cut some deals and market their search technology they'll probably be gone.

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?
WiseNut signs deals with more Japanese SEs and displaces Inktomi in the Japanese market.

nell




msg:241038
 4:36 pm on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

If Brett's #12 prediction is correct what remaining value will Inktomi have?
Will it be worth the $25/page/year to be able to spam Inktomi?

agerhart




msg:241039
 6:51 pm on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

Search Engine Awards 2001:

1 Which search engine improved the most?
AllTheWeb and Google are a close tie......AllTheWeb introduced new things and improved enough to make the SE a direct competitor of Google. Google introduced a bunch of new features that catered to the webmaster and the user.

2 Which lost the most ground?
AltaVista has all but vanished from the SE game, ODP which is withering away, and Excite obviously

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
While Google takes the edge on this one, AllTheWeb is not far behind.

4 Most insecure se?
Inktomi

6 Most creative?
Google has added new features not only for the user, but also for the webmaster. AllTheWeb has also been quite creative....enough so to bring the SE into competition with Google. If you want to look at it from a money and business standpoint, Overture would be in the running for this award. Overture has made some very creative business partnerships and deals that have allowed the PPC engine to all but seize some of the SE's and Internet traffic.

7 The Fastest?
Google.....hands down. I have noticed that the SE has been down over half a dozen times, and I have never experienced this at Google.

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
Google, with AllTheWeb not far behind.

9 Helped make you the most money?
Yahoo (before the latest shift), and Google

10 New comer of the year?
Wisenut

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
ODP will become of less and less importance and eventually die
AltaVista will die off

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?
Google offering Paid Submissions
The battle between AllTheWeb and Google
The release of Teoma
The breaking out of Wisenut

pgsbs




msg:241040
 7:22 pm on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

Most improved SE:
Google

SE that lost the most ground:
Inktomi and of course Excite

Most Webmaster-friendly:
Google

Most insecure:
Inktomi and (yes you're really reading it!!) Yahoo

Most secure:
Google

Most Creative:
Google

The fastest:
Google

Most accurate at finding:
Google (Worldwide) and Ilse.nl (Netherlands)

Helped to make money:
Google (if it would be a profit site)

Newcomer of the year:
Wisenut

Gone within two years:
Altavista... and Yahoo (but that's just a dream)

2002 big surprise:
Google will be the only search engine left!!

Panic of the year:
Yahoo finally losing ground

Lothar




msg:241041
 11:23 pm on Dec 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

For #4 - Most Insecure SE

Let's not forget LookSmart... Their inclusion of paid fees for almost any aspect of their engine including shelling out more money to get a change to your existing web site description which you already paid $299 to list! Take MSN away from their results and they will be down the toilet.

littleman




msg:241042
 7:28 am on Dec 25, 2001 (gmt 0)

1 Which search engine improved the most?
WiseNut
2 Which lost the most ground?
AV and excite of course
3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Err, google
4 Most insecure se?
Inktomi, next AllTheWeb, then AV
5 Most secure?
google ;)
6 Most creative?
Teoma
7 The Fastest?
google
8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
google
9 Helped make you the most money?
Was Excite, now google
10 New comer of the year?
Teoma
11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
AV, maybe Inktomi
12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?
Yahoo will drop it's directory, or switch to expierring listings.

marlog




msg:241043
 11:46 am on Dec 25, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi all, and merry xmas:-)
From an italian point of view:
1 Which search engine improved the most?
Google, followed in Italy by lycos.it and excite.it (they are now both powered by Fast).

2 Which lost the most ground?
Altavista. In Italy Arianna.it.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Google

5 Most secure?
Google

6 Most creative?
Google and alltheweb

7 The Fastest?
Google, followed by alltheweb

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
Google, but i like wisenut, too

9 Helped make you the most money?
Google and Arianna (horrible result's quality, but is very used by italian netsurfers), followed by Fast powered se (lycos.it, excite.it, inwind...)

10 New comer of the year?
Wisenut

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
worldwide i don't know... but in Italy, i think Virgilio (the most visited italian directory, but now it's having a lot of financial troubles)

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?
alltheweb no more as simply Fast's showcase

heini




msg:241044
 1:52 pm on Dec 25, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hello Marlog welcome to WmW
Interesting points from an italian perspective

>alltheweb more than a showcase
would love to see that happen....

KG2RG




msg:241045
 7:43 pm on Dec 25, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi, I may not be able to answer all of the questions here, as I am still learning, but I can answer a few.

1 Which search engine improved the most?
Google

2 Which lost the most ground?
AV

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Google

7: The Fastest?
Google

9: Helped make you the most money?
Yahoo first, then Google

11: Which se's will not be here in a year?
I hope GOTO or what ever they call them self's today. They remind me of the boxing promoter Don King and others that put fights on the "pay pre view", and if you want to see the fight, you have to pay $45.00. I do not support them and will never. If we all supported them, you would then see base ball on pay pre view. Supporting them, only creates a good market for them.

COMMENTS:

AV has lost its credibility. A search engines primary purpose, should be, to providing good quality and relevant results to the surfers. AV is only interested in making $$MONEY$$. Making money by listing goto results before their results, pop up windows coming at you faster then you can shut them off and banner ads everywhere.

GOOGLE is my favorite as a webmaster and as a surfer.
As a serfer, I find what I need and I find it fast without pop up windows everywhere. I can also find great sites, that have not been pushed down deep by a big corporate dominating the top results. Google is fare!

AS a web master, google is a sure thing. You have a fare chance as long as you follow the few rule of thumb. I think Google is a search engine with great integrity and they are #1 in my book!

skibum




msg:241046
 5:08 am on Dec 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

1 Which search engine improved the most?

Google.

2 Which lost the most ground?

Inktomi, AV.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?

Google

6 Most creative?

At providing useful features...Google

At finding new ways to nickle and dime everyone...Look$mart

7 The Fastest?

They're all fast enough for me, Google

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?

Google - don't use anything else

9 Helped make you the most money?

Google/YAHOO/YAHOOGLE/MSN

10 New comer of the year?

Wisenut/Teoma

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?

AV/HotBot/

Look$mart if they can't find a way to turn a profit or a buyer.

About will continue to shrink and could vaporize.

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?

No big surprises, Google will continue to grow and knock the pants off everyone else. If Google stumbles or does something stupid, WiseNut or Teoma may surge onto the sceen.

ebgreen




msg:241047
 12:47 pm on Dec 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

1 Which search engine improved the most? AllTheWeb, excluding the picture search.

2 Which lost the most ground? AltaVista, All of their enhancements are useless. SEE BELOW.

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly? AllTheWeb, GOOGLE, and Wisenut.

4 Most insecure se? Northernlight.

5 Most secure? GOOGLE Advanced Search.
Nothing is close.

6 Most creative? SurfWax, Small, but very interesting.

7 The Fastest? AllTheWeb and GOOGLE.

8 Most accurate at finding what you need? GOOGLE Advanced Search. Nothing is close.

9 Helped make you the most money? Overture and GOOGLE.

10 New comer of the year? SurfWax.

13. Biggest Let Down. Debriefing turning into Iquix. When using the plus sign and quotes, Debriefing was by far the most accurate.

caine




msg:241048
 1:48 pm on Dec 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

1. FAST
2. AV, EXCITE - close call
3. Google
4. INK. blacklists en all
5. Google
6. Google, love the little animated gifs on the base, justs adds a little to the day, supposedly worth remembering
7. Google / Fast / Wisenut
8. Google
9. Google. LS partners
10. Wisenut
11. AV
12. Yahoo will lose number one, and MSN and Lycos will battle for #.1 position for the forseeable future !

NFFC




msg:241049
 1:54 pm on Dec 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

Search Engine Awards 2001:

1 Which search engine improved the most?

Alltheweb

2 Which lost the most ground?

Excite

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?

Alltheweb

4 Most insecure se?

hehe, Inktomi

5 Most secure?

Pass

6 Most creative?

Google

7 The Fastest?

Alltheweb

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?

I don't think that any single SE has nailed it, as a searcher a number of SE's are need to see the best picture.

9 Helped make you the most money?

Google by default, there seeming dominance forced a lot of hard work in sourcing traffic from a wide variety of outlets.

10 New comer of the year?

Pass

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?

Looksmart

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?

Following L$'s demise and subsequent purchase by MSN, a resurgent ODP will further confirm it's place as the Internet's best directory.

2_much




msg:241050
 6:04 am on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

"a resurgent ODP will further confirm it's place as the Internet's best directory"

NFFC I hope to God you're wrong :)

angiolo




msg:241051
 9:54 am on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

Search Engine Awards 2001:
1 Which search engine improved the most?

Alltheweb

2 Which lost the most ground?

Altavista

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?

Alltheweb

4 Most insecure se?

Inktomi

5 Most secure?

Google

6 Most creative?

Alltheweb

7 The Fastest?

Google

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?

Google, Alltheweb, Northernlite

9 Helped make you the most money?

GOOGLE!!!!

10 New comer of the year?

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?

Hotbot

12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?

Wisenut

wolfy




msg:241052
 12:59 pm on Dec 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

1 Which search engine improved the most?

GOOGLE

2 Which lost the most ground?

EXCITE

3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?

ALLTHEWEB

4 Most insecure se?

INKTOMI

5 Most secure?

GOOGLE

6 Most creative?

GOOGLE

7 The Fastest?

GOOGLE

8 Most accurate at finding what you need?

ALLTHEWEB

9 Helped make you the most money?

GOOGLE

10 New comer of the year?

TEOMA

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?

ALTAVISTA

13 Panic of the year:

Overture will buy all SEs

ahaviv




msg:241053
 5:05 am on Dec 28, 2001 (gmt 0)

Google is by far the best search engine. I use the cache feature all the time. It has so many features: keywords, categories, images, newsgroups, pdf and other document search, safefilter, language filter (yup I don't want to see results in Pashtu when I'm looking for the latest game secrets). And the number 1 feature? It happily sits on my Opera personal bar so that I can get to it at any time :)

newriver




msg:241054
 4:25 pm on Jan 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

1 Which search engine improved the most?
Alltheweb, their move to the quickest indexing is a huge improvement from last year.

2 Which lost the most ground?
AltaVista/Hotbot
3 Which is the most webmaster friendly?
Google
4 Most insecure se?
no response
5 Most secure?
no response
6 Most creative?
I'm going with Wisenut here, they were the first to really promote "sneak a peak"..something new.
7 The Fastest?
Google / Alltheweb
8 Most accurate at finding what you need?
Alltheweb, seems to be a little less influenced by SEO tricks than Google can be.
9 Helped make you the most money?
Yahoo! Hands down was more over first seven months, that is now shifting to Google. But for 2001 it was Yahoo!
10 New comer of the year?
Wisenut, Teoma does not hold a candle to Wisenut results.

11 Which se's will not be here in a year?
AV, Looksmart
12 What will be 2002's big se surprise?
Alltheweb will be the big newcomer, and by second half of the year will be a huge player next to Google!

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