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What do SEO companies know that I dont?
benevolent001




msg:239572
 5:12 am on Dec 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

hello
i am just fed up with low traffic level from search engine to my website.i have tried my best to optimise the website,placed meta tags ,alt image texts tried to keep code simple and done every thing a simple inexperienced guy can down
now i find so many seo company websites which say they can do this they can do that....you know what

but i wanted to know what these seo guys know what i dont,
is the use of doorway pages good or bad i see lot of websites doing this

i just have 9 back links and pr 4 for my website and want to improve it.i submitted website to dmoz and awaiting approavl they say come in february to check in

should i consider paid listing in the directories or what?

i want to exchange links but really dont know what to do...i have less time for my website promotion as i am student too so have to study also but i want my website to have good ranking also ...although i am trying hard but its difficult

I need your suggestions in this regard.i am trying to get ideas here in this website by reading previous posts hoping to get some thought over this

It would be great if you can give me list of some of the piad listing good direcroties i have some money not too much to spend on this..

Thank you

 

rich42




msg:239573
 7:35 am on Dec 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

i have tried my best to optimise the website,placed meta tags ,alt image texts tried to keep code simple and done every thing a simple inexperienced guy can down

you're barking up the wrong tree. meta tags and image alt tags aren't going to get you far.

use the overture keyword tool (google it) to help figure out your keywords. try to come up with more keywords (think 30+) as opposed to fewer. focus on keywords that get at least some traffic and accurately describe your product.

create pages focused around those keywords. use the keyword in your page title and several times in the body. don't over-do it - make sure the page still reads well for end users. <h1> and <h2> tags can help also.

use variations of your keywords (plurals, different phrasings) both on the focus pages - and when linking to the pages.

create original content on your topic - try to make one new page / day. link those pages back to your focus pages using the appropriate text. if your lacking ideas - try looking up your topic in Google news - and write summaries of recent news stories.

use google to find sites that link to those similar to yours - and ask them to link to you.

be patient. results can take several months (or more if you have relatively new domain).

and thats about it. I've gone from about 50 hits / day to around 350 / day in 6 months using those techniques.

antoine




msg:239574
 4:24 am on Jan 2, 2005 (gmt 0)


You answered your own question. You only have 9 backlinks. It doesn't matter what content your website has, it's all about the links.

bekyed




msg:239575
 2:44 pm on Jan 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Antoine,

Can you expand on this please?

It doesn't matter what content your website has?

Bek.

storevalley




msg:239576
 3:11 pm on Jan 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

You only have 9 backlinks. It doesn't matter what content your website has, it's all about the links.

Not true, I'm afraid. Content is very much part of the mix.

benevolent001 ... start with this post [webmasterworld.com]. There is some pretty sterling advice there.

benevolent001




msg:239577
 3:19 pm on Jan 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks storevalley

I am trying to follow those 26 points ..and these days trying to improve my coding structure of my pages(shifting from table like str...to css+tables)

Along with adding few content pages every week.
I hope to improve my ratings with these 26 points

storevalley




msg:239578
 3:57 pm on Jan 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

That's a start, but just remember that Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com]
is just a guide. Different techniques can help with different sectors and search engines.

Keep your eyes on your log files as covered in point U ... you really will get a feel for what is working (and what is not working) for you after a while.

The only thing not given enough weight in the aformentioned post is keyword research. Successful sites generally target researched search phrases. A good place to start looking for inspiration in this regard is the Overture Keyword Assistant on this page [content.overture.com].

Good luck :)

rich42




msg:239579
 9:38 am on Jan 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

one thing to add on keyword research. target a -lot- of keywords. don't go after just the top 5.

try to come up with 50 or so keywords that accurately describe what you have to offer. 100 would be even better.

Purva




msg:239580
 7:24 am on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

sorry for chipping in..but i have a question too.. are you trying to say choose say 30 or 50 main keywords related to the theme of your website, categorise them as core keywords,primary keywords and say,secondary keywords, and use their permuation-combination for different pages? So i am revolving around the same keywords but their density varies according to pages. right? thanks

rich42




msg:239581
 9:18 am on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

are you trying to say choose say 30 or 50 main keywords related to the theme of your website, categorise them as core keywords,primary keywords and say,secondary keywords, and use their permuation-combination for different pages?

something like that. I wouldn't worry so much about "primary" vs "secondary".

Important thing is to know your keywords, optimize pages around them, and then create new "non-optimized" content (page / day or more) with anchor text pointing back to the optimized pages.

Rhino




msg:239582
 2:20 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

And while you're working thru those 12 months to success, consider trying some Pay-Per-Click ads to make sure your site converts. There are two goals - get traffic + convert them - and you need to do both. I've found using a little PPC early will let you know if you can monetize your traffic that will come later from your SEO efforts. I think it improves your focus on keywords also. What if you spent all that time and effort and later found you had decent traffic but couldn't monetize it well?

too much information




msg:239583
 2:58 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

sorry for chipping in..

I don't think anyone minds if you chip in. ;o)

I think it is just a matter of experience. It will take you a while to learn what works for the SERPs you are after, some are more dificult than others.

I agree with the PPC to get you started, use that until you find your way into the natural results, then keep doing whatever it is that got you into the SERPs until you understand what needs to be done.

be patient, you will get the results you are looking for if you give it some time and keep reading here to learn what others are trying.

bakedjake




msg:239584
 3:00 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

i just have 9 back links

Stop linking to your homepage, and start linking to your inner pages.

IppTak




msg:239585
 5:46 pm on Jan 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see people mentioning to have 50~100 keywords, but that seems like so many...how do you guys incorporate them all to your websites? I know we shouldn't simply list keywords (though it may help), so I try to come up with quality contents, with paragraphs and sentences, but I don't know how I can incoporate ONE HUNDRED keywords!

If you guys can share a little on how you take a list of 100 words and insert into a site, that would be great.

IppTak

rich42




msg:239586
 10:41 pm on Jan 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you guys can share a little on how you take a list of 100 words and insert into a site, that would be great.

have you tried using a text editor like notepad?

you'll need to make lots of pages. target each page around 1 to 3 (at most) keywords. to effectively target 100 keywords - you'll probably need a minimum of around 50 pages.

if this sounds like a lot of work - it's because it is.

IppTak




msg:239587
 4:44 am on Jan 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

have you tried using a text editor like notepad?

if this sounds like a lot of work - it's because it is.

Hey! You didn't have to sound so condescending! :))

I was somehow under the impression that the posters were indicating that they put all 100 keywords into one page. (afterall PR is determined by page to page) What you say makes more sense though. My site has over 100 pages, so effectively, I must have at least 300~400.

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