diamondgrl

msg:235016 | 3:36 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
You don't need to resubmit since the search engines should find you on their own, but you do need to learn as much as you can about search engine optimization. Get inbound links like crazy. If it is a matter of thousands of dollars a week as you describe it, do not hesitate for one second spending money on a Yahoo link submission, as well as other solid (reasonably high PR) link sources (JoeAnt, GoGuides, etc.) Then check the pages to make sure they are reasonably well optimized for whatever search terms you think customers will use. Use metatags and a judicious smattering of the keywords on your key pages.
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hannamyluv

msg:235017 | 3:54 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
***Not a Lawyer*** You could try going the legal route. Send a Cease and Desist about the claim, saying its libelous.
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bushey

msg:235018 | 4:32 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Have a look at this - it may help [webmasterworld.com...] Good luck Chris
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msfabalous1

msg:235019 | 5:37 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Thanks for all the feedback. We actually are going the legal route and are speaking to several of the SE about these issues.
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buckworks

msg:235020 | 6:08 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
You could start an affiliate program and let your affiliates bury the negative site in the SERPs.
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ggrot

msg:235021 | 6:16 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I sent you a sticky. Interested if you are having trouble with the same site that I am. Respond when you get a change, please.
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diamondgrl

msg:235022 | 7:58 pm on Sep 9, 2004 (gmt 0) |
You can certainly pursue that route, but I would caution that if you are both US web sites, you will have no legal grounds to stand on unless that other web site recklessly defamed your company and, importantly, that the information is wrong. If someone doesn't like your service or product, they have every right - and the duty - to post that information. Any legal action brought on the basis would be tossed in court in a New York minute.
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hannamyluv

msg:235023 | 12:31 am on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Any legal action brought on the basis would be tossed in court in a New York minute |
| Well, sure, but are they willing to risk that this is the case? ;) I've seen more than a few "let's see what happens" C&Ds. It doesn't hurt, and most of the time a website does not generate enough money from the page to warrent risking the case in court.
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ggrot

msg:235024 | 2:06 am on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0) |
The site he is referring to seems to make all their money through extortion of site owners. They allow any user to make any claim about any business, unvalidated, unreviewed. They use SEO techniques and a PR7 website to guarantee first page results for that company name. They then use terminology on their website to basically indicate that all companies with claims against them are ripoff artists. They allow the companies themselves to file rebuttals, but from my research, they charge the companies after X rebuttals, and basically try to use extortion tactics to convince these companies to pay them money to assist them in clearing their name. They also try to upsell books to the upset user on how to harrass the companies in question. The whole thing is quite nasty. I suspect they've recieved cease and desists many times before and throw them away like I toss AOL cds. I will refrain from using the name/url, but i have contacted msfabalous1 myself, and it is the same website that is smearing my name.
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synthium

msg:235025 | 12:10 am on Sep 12, 2004 (gmt 0) |
You could try going the legal route. Send a Cease and Desist about the claim, saying its libelous. - Agreed. Recently Google and another major player in the SE world faced some nasty legal problems with copyright infringements of GEICO. If you write a quality letter to google using their abuse@ on their web site you can sometimes get reasonable responses. Either way. Good luck! Another thing. Some web hosting companies frown on copyright infringement or legally dangerous web sites hosted by them. It is not impossible to have a site pulled for TOS violations. Contact all administrators concerned including the owners of the web site concerned. You never know till you try.
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msfabalous1

msg:235026 | 5:03 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Just want to thank everyone for such great feedback regarding this issue. I know its a tricky one, but all the feedback was great and welcome. Just frustrating to figure out how to "outwit" the site that is coming in above our site on a daily basis. Started working on more content pages and submitting on a different level. Hope something will finally work Thanks again, MS Fab
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daverb

msg:235027 | 12:45 pm on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
>> You could start an affiliate program and let your affiliates bury the negative site in the SERPs. How would this work? Interesting idea. Also, please can anyone provide a search term that might bring up this bad business site, rather than naming them directly?
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msfabalous1

msg:235028 | 4:46 pm on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
A link that explains about this company is [beiconline.com...]
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daverb

msg:235029 | 11:45 pm on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0) |
ironic that the beiconline site has a pr of 0, yet contains many links to a "bad" site with a pr of 7! interesting yet sinister stuff at play.
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m2_member

msg:235030 | 11:16 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Hi. having good backlinks helps SE ranking. Apart from that, your website must have an optimised content as per the target keywords. you need to learn as much as you can about SEO as its " survival of the fittest " . You can go ahead with a legal case,but I'ld personally suggest you to concentrate on Improving your website's performance and let the work speak for itself. regards m2_member [edited by: DaveAtIFG at 3:10 am (utc) on Sep. 18, 2004] [edit reason] Abbreviated signature [/edit]
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m2_member

msg:235031 | 11:21 pm on Sep 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I was Wondering I could provide more information to you . You can Include a page "press_release.html " in your website and write an impressive article on your website and its services. You can take help of a good content writer for this cause . Once the press release article is posted on your website, you can start submitting to all major and minor search engines, open directories and other websites of relevance. This will help your website to gain a better visibility and make sure you use target keywords in the article to it's best extent without stuffing. You can also submit the article in Yellow pages , b2b directories , groups and web forums in a spam-free manner. This will fetch you good incoming links which can Improve link popularity, page rank and above all SE ranking which you are looking for. All the best. regards m2_member
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