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I have a challenge...
...with a BIG site!
yoo_daa




msg:240916
 11:38 am on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have a challenge with a new client (hopefully). It is a BIG company with a proportional big site, of course! The basics are frames and they got Javascripts working their database.

The department that Iím in contact with are somewhere in the ďmiddleĒ of the site and its not showing up on any serps what so ever, itís a dream case!

I would appreciate any experienced and qualified suggestions on what the best solutions would be in this situation. Should I build new sites under an other domain, optimized for the keyword pointing at their official site, or what?

Thanks
/z

 

trillianjedi




msg:240917
 11:45 am on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Should I build new sites under an other domain, optimized for the keyword pointing at their official site, or what?

Any reason not to just improve what they already have?

TJ

yoo_daa




msg:240918
 1:28 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Trillianjedi,

Thanks for your suggestion. Donít know why but they are not to be found on any of their keywords/phrases what so ever, not any of the underlying directories are indexed, besides the home page. Its an international company and it have been around for ages on the internet.

They even have the <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="INDEX,FOLLOW"> command tough it shouldnít be necessary.
Maybe the spider cant work it self trough the frames?

trillianjedi




msg:240919
 1:31 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Donít know why but they are not to be found on any of their keywords/phrases what so ever, not any of the underlying directories are indexed, besides the home page.

Don't even think about a redesign, or doing anything for that matter, until you have worked that one out.

Check robots.txt and link structure (java links maybe?). Frames are inexcusible (IMO) but shouldn't stop the linked to pages within the frames getting indexed.

TJ

sem4u




msg:240920
 1:48 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I would seriously consider ditching the frames.

yoo_daa




msg:240921
 3:35 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

trillianjedi,

Ok, I eventually found some indexed pdf files down deep and some redirected frame pages.
Iíll see if I can manage to find the reason why the other pages aren't indexed.

sem4u,

If you ask me that would be the right thing to do but its an international company with offices all over the world and I only have contact with one department. I wonder if they would allow me to change the structure and rebuild the entire site, I doubt it! :) Anyway thanks for the suggestion.

trillianjedi




msg:240922
 3:43 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I wonder if they would allow me to change the structure and rebuild the entire site, I doubt it!

Ask. And explain why you feel it's required.

If they say "no" you'll have to seriously consider whether you can really do anything to help them.

TJ

zyshen




msg:240923
 3:52 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

agree with TJ.
explain to them(managers) why they should get rid of the frame for the entire site. If the whole site is running frame, chances are the site is "pretty old". so maybe it's time for a upgrade. show and explain why the non-frame site can improve performance and theat might leads you a bigger job ^^
good luck and work hard :p

yoo_daa




msg:240924
 5:19 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thank you all,

even if they go ahead with this crazy idea :)I dont have the capacity or the knowledge to handle such a big job.
If so, lets split the deal in parts and have a h*** of a ride :-))

/z

yoo_daa




msg:240925
 5:22 pm on May 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

trillianjedi,

by the way, why donít you think my idea wouldnít work?

/z

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