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My site won't get listed
is it my meta tags?
Lunatic Lineman

 7:42 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've had my site up for about 7 months now, get good hits, submitted to Google and Yahoo about every month and even use Overture for about 3 months. Still nothing.

Could some one help point me in a direction on what I should do.

Thanks in advance, Luni



 8:15 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

How many links to do have to your site?

Lunatic Lineman

 8:24 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

about 20. I also go onto a few boards that have my site in my signature.

I believe that a few of my weblinks do not have the www. in the href. Does this matter?

Here's my meta elements: I noticed there's no keywords?

<META NAME="Subject" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Language" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Expires" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Distribution" CONTENT="global">
<META NAME="Robots" CONTENT="All">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type>

[edited by: agerhart at 3:46 pm (utc) on Mar. 15, 2004]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

Lunatic Lineman

 8:25 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I also went to a metatag validator and it showed that there were 289 wanrings?



 8:34 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

>about 20

The number isn't as important as the quality. High ranking pages are best. If you know the URLs of your high ranking competitors, the following Google search may help:


That will show you only PR4+ sites that link to your competitor. You may find some good pages to submit your site.


 8:41 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

what happens if you type in site:yourdomain.com ?


 9:12 pm on Mar 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I only use the following meta tags and make sure I do the following.

Title, description and keywords.

Meta tag for Title:
I make the title of my listing and title my HOME page the same as the meta tag. Brief and to the point.

Meta tag for description:
I use the exact same description in the meta tag as I use in the submitted web page listing. I then make sure that the meta tag description and web listing description is also integrated into my HOME page.

Meta tag for keywords:
Come up with any word or words that you can think of that someone might type in a browser looking for what you have in your site.
Then put those keyword and phrases in the keyword meta tag (using a comma between each keyword or phrase) and also use most, if not all of them integrated into your HOME page. Think of your HOME page title, content, etc as only appealing to a robot, but make it informative to the site visitor as to what your site is for, has to say, etc. They can then go deeper into your site to find out more. (The meta crawler doesn't care who else is in the house, they just glance in the entrance)

That's all I do and my site is consistently in the top five of all my search terms and number 1 in most of them.

The next thing I did was have [snip].com to submit my web site to the search engines for me.

Understand that I only have one website, and have only had it for a few weeks. But I have stayed at a Holiday Inn before;)

Good luck,

[edited by: pageoneresults at 10:04 pm (utc) on Mar. 14, 2004]
[edit reason] Removed URI Reference - Please refer to TOS [/edit]


 2:43 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Make sure your code is error free...that also makes a big difference when it comes down to getting your webpage spidered. validator.w3.org/

Next, dont submit to yahoo and google every single month, you can get banned if you over submit.

Make sure you have pages WITH page rank pointing back to your site.

Do a search for "search engines" and you'll find hundreds...submit to all the free ones. A few extra hits here and there wont hurt.

And no, it shouldn't make much a difference if you have the www. or not before your domain. Some spiders like google will pick it up and list it as a link back to your site.

Dont forget to submit to dmoz, and wait...it takes months before they list you.

good luck.

Lunatic Lineman

 3:09 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is what I received when I tried to validate. Sorry, but this is a little over my head. Can someone explain what's going wrong here

[edited by: agerhart at 3:40 pm (utc) on Mar. 15, 2004]
[edit reason] sorry, no URLs - read the TOS and Charter [/edit]


 3:24 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Sounds like you have a lot of reading to do - seriously. :)

The issues you're running up against are common. For starters, your website has no DOCTYPE declaration and won't validate without one.

Learn about DOCTYPE [w3.org]declarations and the W3C guidelines [w3.org]. It is a lot of reading but it's worth the effort.


 3:31 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

You have error in your <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type>

It is not filled up correctly. Try this one:

<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso8859-1">

Lunatic Lineman

 3:41 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I just tried to place it into my homepage on Dream Weaver and everything dissappeared

Here's the head:

<META NAME="Subject" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Language" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Expires" CONTENT="">
<META NAME="Distribution" CONTENT="global">
<META NAME="Robots" CONTENT="All">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso8859-1"> >

[edited by: agerhart at 3:46 pm (utc) on Mar. 15, 2004]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

Lunatic Lineman

 3:42 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

should I just remove all the Meta data?


 8:50 am on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

You should move tag
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso8859-1"> >

to the <head> section and make it looks like this exactly:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso8859-1">

In your case you have additional > bracket at the end.

Lunatic Lineman

 1:29 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Gotcha, I'll go get that updated here in a bit.

I came across a program and wanted to know if anyone has ever heard of it and has any knowledge of it. [popular rank checking program]. I downloaded a trial program last night and it looks pretty interesting

Thanks for the info, Luni

[edited by: pageoneresults at 7:43 pm (utc) on Mar. 16, 2004]
[edit reason] Removed Specifics - Please Refer to TOS [/edit]


 3:58 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm using it. It's funny for the beginning to trace, have you 43 or 39 position. But after 2-3 months of working very hard and serious on one site optimization you will know your keywords and positions like 1-2-3.

You will have several really important keywords, that you will prefer to check manually, to see what is changing around your site too. And on other keywords there is no difference, if they are on any page except first.
Besides, when some keyword begans to bring traffic, you can see it in your logs.

Now I'm unsing this program again because my partners need good-looking reports. But personally I still don't have need in this program.


 6:29 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Lineman for the county,

I'm surprised no one has mentioned my previous response to you about keywords.
You don't have any and no one has brought that up.
I don't believe you will have any success without keywords.

Just trying to help.

Good luck,


 6:45 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

"Make sure your code is error free"
my site has tons of "errors" and it's doing very good on Google. My competitors site have so many errors the thing stops counting and they're doing great on all. I don't think that's it. Of course it's better to have it error free...

Lunatic Lineman

 8:00 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I do have an error on my home page at the bottom left of the screen but do not know how to fix this. I've ran a Clean up .html command in Dreamweaver. But to no avail.

Thanks for working w/ me here. I've got a possible assistant reading these posts that may get involved and it's a great diary for reference.



 8:45 pm on Mar 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

What about your domain name? Was there anything weird going on with it when/before you got it? Did you register it yourself or did you buy it of someone?

The reason I ask is because it may have been penalized... you do not have a PageRank at all! And I cannot find many spidered pages for your site. The domain may have been spammed before you owned it and that got it removed from the index.

If your domain is indeed penalized, you have to write an e-mail to Google and tell them that you are not being indexed and that you bought the domain (if that is indeed what happened) and are the new owner or something similar. After you do that, they may remove the penalty.

Give it a go!


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