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msg:253304
 8:37 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dicussion for Search Engine Relationship Chart [webmasterworld.com]

That's really useful, cheers.

 

tigger




msg:253305
 8:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

great chart, so who gets the job of updating it

pageoneresults




msg:253306
 8:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice chart Brett! Will you be keeping it current?

backus




msg:253307
 8:50 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart...

Brett_Tabke




msg:253308
 8:51 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Direct Hit

When I interviewed Paul G of Teoma [webmasterworld.com] he confirmed that DH would continue to be used. Most of us have seen a drop off in DH generated referrals, but they are still there. The biggest is from MSN, but an occasional HotBot and Teoma view from a DH influence still comes through.

chris_f




msg:253309
 8:55 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Also, Don't forget the new Ask Jevees/Teoma deal with Google.

That's what I hate about these charts. You can't keep them up to date for two seconds ;).

Thanks for the round up Brett.

Chris.

lazerzubb




msg:253310
 8:57 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Also, Don't forget the new Ask Jevees/Teoma deal with Google.

From the chart
8 AskJeeves has completed a deal with Google to install Google AdWords on AskJeeves and Teoma as sponsored links.
Removed: Go.com, Excite, and WebCrawler are now basic search affiliate sites of several search services (mainly Overture).

:)

vitaplease




msg:253311
 8:58 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice one Brett,

I still like to use northernlight.com once in a while.

kapow




msg:253312
 9:36 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Great chart - thanks Brett

It would be great if it could be kept up to date.
e.g. to have a 'last update' date on it somewhere.

dantheman




msg:253313
 9:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Great work. Now what would be useful is going through each search service and estimating what % of results are delivered by each source provider. Then we could create a chart that showed what % of total traffic each source provider actually provided.

Very useful reference as it stands though.

Robber




msg:253314
 9:46 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Cheers Brett,

My girlfriend will be pleased - shes started helping us out after finishing uni and her first task was to make a chart just like that, guess I'll have to think of a new job now!

misosoph




msg:253315
 10:18 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Are there instructions for how to use this chart? For example, I get many, many visitors from MSN searches, almost none from AOL searches. But both MSN and AOL get their results from Inktomi, as I read the chart. So how can that be? (I have not paid to be included anywhere.)

Brett_Tabke




msg:253316
 10:29 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Agreed misosoph. Every engine is different in that regard. While AOL leads primarily with Inktomi results, MSN lead primarily with LookSmart results. Trying to work that in to a chart would be messy.

Receptional




msg:253317
 10:56 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Couple of comments that people made:

Dantheman said> "Now what would be useful is going through each search service and estimating what % of results are delivered by each source provider"

We actually did that some months ago, based on aggregating logs on every client - we made the columns on our Excel spreadsheet relate to the % marketshare and even colour coded the whole thing. It took AGES. Then Yahoo started using Espotting... in UK.. Then Excite went down... Then the BBC started to use search. Now our table is totally out of date!

Baccus said> "still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart... "

Yep - they have a deal at the moment - Looksmart are mixing Espotting results in with their directory ones. Wonder how long that will last now Looksmart has bidsmart.looksmart.co.uk?

Dixon.

Brett_Tabke




msg:253318
 11:02 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

>I'm still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart...

Which part of the results is Espotting?

backus




msg:253319
 11:03 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Sponsored.

Brett_Tabke




msg:253320
 11:07 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

We must be seeing different results.

When I search on the common "mortage" on both, I don't see anything at all that matches under "featured sites".

Updated with a few more with help from Mr. Rencke.

<added>
Ok, backus sent me a search that did turn up Espotting links. Thanks
</added>

Brad




msg:253321
 11:51 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

I flagged this one. Excellent chart. Thanks for making that. I thought it was a nice touch adding in some of the principle European engines.

It is getting so hard to explain this stuff to those unfamilier with search engines. And at times, I get confused anymore.

Now the real work begins, having to update it every other month! ;)

agerhart




msg:253322
 12:55 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Great chart Brett...thanks for sharing with all of us. I am sure that it will come in handy as a reference tool.

>>>updated

When has Brett not kept something updated here? ;)

Alby




msg:253323
 12:57 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Very useful.

Thank you Brett.

bigjohnt




msg:253324
 1:39 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Awesome. Even easier to read and interpret.
Brett rocks.

Marcia




msg:253325
 2:14 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice! Very usable and easy to follow.

stavs




msg:253326
 3:01 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice One Brett!

caine




msg:253327
 3:10 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

good stuff, Brett.

Nice to see the ODP holding strong in the Directory feeds.
Google just seems to be going from strength to strength, not sure how i feel about this.

pvdm




msg:253328
 3:11 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thank you Brett!

You really are a master at providing great tools all of us need!

GoogleGuy




msg:253329
 4:03 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Neat stuff, Brett! Gotta print that out and put it by my computer. :)

hstyri




msg:253330
 4:31 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Great.

However, wouldn't Looksmart in some way be influenced by Zeal? (Zeal is mentioned wrt WiseNut)

Brett_Tabke




msg:253331
 9:08 am on Jul 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

people love charts...

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