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Website Editor for Mac?
Steelbank




msg:977706
 2:56 pm on Jul 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

We just recently switched to Mach and are looking for a program to edit html codes and edit our websites.

Any suggestions?

 

shaku007




msg:977707
 6:58 am on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am by no means an expert at this, but I read an article which led me to buy a new website builder. The article also covered the areas you are seeking. I hope it helps. I have no relationship with the website, a reader is all. Cheers, s.

[mac360.com...]

timster




msg:977708
 12:38 pm on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Adobe GoLive, mentioned in the article referenced in the previous post, is a great program targeted to web designers.

You mentioned editing HTML codes, and if it's a text editor you want, BBEdit by BareBones software is hard to beat for the Mac.

If there are any Unix/Linux hackers among you, they may be interested in knowing vim comes with modern Macs, just boot up the Terminal and type vi.

your_store




msg:977709
 2:00 pm on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Textmate is my text editor of choice.

photon




msg:977710
 5:53 pm on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you're not looking for a WYSIWYG editor, try Smultron.

misteroriginal




msg:977711
 2:23 am on Jul 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I prefer DreamWeaver to GoLive, as far as expensive WYSIWIG editors go. The nice thing about DreamWeaver is it is the same on the PC and the Mac. I think it's still the same, but the CD for DreamWeaver included both the Mac and PC versions before Adobe bought Macromedia. GoLive wanted you to purchase seperate versions for each OS, which really pissed me off.

With the new Intel-based Macs, I understand you can run Windows quite well. That is sweet if you want to see your website in IE6.

DreamWeaver also has a ton of nifty site management features that GoLive doesn't have.

Of course, the Mac includes XCode, which is a free IDE (Integrated Development Environment) that is comparable to Microsoft's Visual Studio.

BBEdit is the long-lived standard for the Mac.

stormy




msg:3004780
 11:09 pm on Jul 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

My vote goes for Dreamweaver too. Works pretty well, but make sure to install the latest version.

Lorel




msg:3006536
 3:18 am on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm still using SimpleText with a color plugin--I haven't found an editor that can beat it. I don't like BBedit because there aren't enough options but use it when the file goes over 25K.

All of the WYSIWYG programs (even the newest versions) produce code that doesn't validate and they also add code bloat and inefficient use of CSS. Most of my redesign work comes from sites redesigned with these programs.

Anyone who wants to be a professional web designer really should learn to write code by hand and learningCSS is a must also.

ant_maybe




msg:3010907
 1:02 am on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

For text editing specific for web check out skEdit: www.skti.org

love it.

bedlam




msg:3010949
 1:47 am on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

if it's a text editor you want, BBEdit by BareBones software is hard to beat for the Mac

These guys definitely have credibility--this program's been around almost as long as the web, and it's definitely a very capable editor--but when there are products as outstanding as Textmate available for about a third of the price of BBedit, it feels a bit difficult to justify the expense.

[Which is another way of saying that I recommend Textmate too...]

-b

gabrielk




msg:3011679
 3:02 pm on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just to toss in my two cents after 10 years of freelancing, going through various stages of needs.

Dreamweaver
For developers, Dreamweaver is tops. It's designed for people who come from an HTML/code development background who need/want a GUI.

GoLive
GoLive is better for people coming from PhotoShop who're looking to implement their designs into a website. It's more GUI-centric than Dreamweaver, and its tools are more visually-oriented. If you're primarily a designer and looking for a good crossover into making websites (and all the bit as powerful as Dreamweaver, it just takes a different approach), then goLive's yours.

BBEdit
Hands down the best code editor available for Mac. There's a free one by the same company, TexWrangler, which has code highlighting and many of the basic functions, but none of the HTML/PHP/ASP/etc functions that BBEdit has. Still, if you want to get a feel for it past the 30 day demo period, TextWrangler still does the job well.

iWeb (Apple's web editor w/ iLife)
If you're looking for an easy-to-use WYSIWYG editor that you can just pick up and use, and make a decent-looking site on, this is pretty much the best. With clients and family, I (and they) have tried literally everything out there. Basically, you can't get a full-functional editor that's also simple enough for someone without HTML or graphic design knowledge to pick up and use. And out of the editors designed for non-professionals, iWeb's definitely the easiest to use and the best-looking one (the others have really, really terrible design templates, image processing, etc).

iTunage




msg:3028370
 3:19 am on Jul 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you're editing code rather than looking for wysiwyg, then you can't get any better than Textmate imo.

whoisgregg




msg:3032213
 11:00 pm on Aug 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver's tools for managing templates and includes were continuously getting corrupted and not updating everything and it's CSS support is incredibly flaky. Once I set Dreamweaver to open in Code View by default and wasn't using it's site management tools I realized I could do better.

BBEdit became my tool of choice for HTML and PHP editing. Anytime I have to use a different text editor I feel the loss of the tools I am so used to having.

But I still recognize the important role Dreamweaver played in getting me started. I wouldn't recommend a text editor for any new webmaster/web designer/web developer. Start WYSIWYG (Dreamweaver/GoLive/iWeb), just be ready to abandon it when it starts to get in the way more than it's helping.

lesterofpupets




msg:3044388
 5:06 am on Aug 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm a fan of Alpha.

[maths.mq.edu.au ]

norton j radstock




msg:3044409
 5:25 am on Aug 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Strangely I still use Adobe Pagemill, which was once bundled free in the distant past -nice simple programme with no frills.

Jack_Hardie




msg:3046088
 8:13 pm on Aug 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've got Dreamweaver 8, Smultron and skEdit on my G5. If you want WYSIWYG editing then go Dreamweaver 8. Earlier versions of DW couldn't cope well with css design. If you write your own code and you want value for money take a really good look at skEdit (www.skti.org).

travelin cat




msg:3050112
 4:04 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've been using GoLive since version 2 way b4 Adobe purchased it.

I'm afraid that it will be history soon. No reason for Adobe to have both of the major editors competing with each other. They will either sell it (unlikely) or kill it off.

I'm just hoping that when they do send it to the great software place in the sky they give us ol' GoLive users an upgrade path to DW. I'd rather not have to pay full pop for it.

Entrepreneur




msg:3051794
 4:30 pm on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm still using Claris Home Page which installs for both Windows and Mac (Classic only). Of course it's very out of date and doesn't handle CSS but it manages tables very nicely and you can use its WYSIWYG editor or HTML editor (or both). To me it's the most user-friendly software available (or not available).

The nearest modern equivalent is GoLive Cyberstudio. I've tried Dreamweaver (and MX version) but it's "top heavy" for what I do. Steep learning curve.

I also use Freeway Pro but it can't load existing pages so it's useless for editing old pages.
Likewise Apple iWeb, plus iWeb creates very large image files in PNG format. Doesn't seem to use JPEG at all.

I also have GoodPage which is an editor only (not WYSIWYG) but I can't figure it out at all, despite its rave reviews.

Mustn't overlook the free NVU (which I've never been able to use because it crashes my Macs.) It's also had good reviews.

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