We've got about 1,300 Macs in our organization, almost all use Safari or Firefox. Sometimes someone needs to use Netscape for some specific site. Mac IE is long dead.
All Firefox & Opera here ... About 80 machines in all.
Two Macs here, both primarily use Safari 2.0 but sometimes we need to crank up the ol' IE 5.2 when Safari does not play nice. We have been using Firefox 1.02 as well just to see how it handles the pages that Safari chokes on, and it handles them all flawlessly.
Firefox, one iMac.
Safari 1.2 / IE 5.23
Safari 1.3 and FireFox Latest: to view if my programmed bg systems work,
On VirtualPC: IE6
to view if the visual part works in all browsers.
3 Macs: 1 G4 DP, 2x iMac G3
(And one emulated win xp, but since it runs on a mac that doesn't count)
Great feedback so far, thanks.
As I hoped, not many using IE Mac :)
I have a number of Mac clients still using IE5.x. Some of them are still on OS9 where it came as the default browser, others just don't know any better.
The U.S. public education market still has many, many machines running OS 9 and IE 5.2. Check your target audience before dropping support. :)
Safari 1.1 as packaged with Panther ... just the one Mac.
I refuse to allow any Microsoft product on my machine, so no IE here. I do have Firefox installed and I think some version of Netscape someplace.
If Safari chokes on a web page, the page was poorly written. Typical these come from the Windows/FrontPage/IE systems of HTML. Frankly, these are some of the worst writing I've even seen. When I see <p> </p> I think "moron" ...
I handcode all my pages ... my customers are chessplayers ... and ... well ... chessplayers are an interesting lot ... images over 2k in size are useless if not outright damaging. 75% of my users complained when I added <bgcolor="#CCCCFF"> ...
|I refuse to allow any Microsoft product on my machine ... |
This is either naive, or you surf the web, build pages and play games.
Office for Mac is necessary to receive Excel docís and Powerpoint doc's. Virtual PC is necessary for PC only apps like Publisher. Heaven forbid someone should actually be using the program, but just incase some mom builds a page in Publisher -- because she canít use anything else, I can open it.
Right there are 3 Microsoft products I canít live without ... and I hate MS.
It just-so-happens that I care about older browsers on some of the websites I build too. So I keep IE around for special occasions ... like testing.
6 x Mac.
All with Safari 1.3 & one using FF 1.0.3
Firefox latest mostly; Safari 2 for testing my designs.
That's pretty harsh don't you think?
Anyone who can't convert Excel into comma-delimited probably can't afford to hire me anyway. Never had anyone send me a PowerPoint document. I've trained dozens of people in handcoding HTML in just days.
I say again, all these applications and browsers are bloatcoded, all the cute bells and whistles just tangle and trip.
Hopefully I'm correct in matching software with hardware, thus Safari is best on Apple and IE is best in Windows.
I understand your choice to participate in MS's criminal activities. I'm only suggesting that we, the general internet population, look to you, the webmaster community, to make a stand against such crimes.
To call me naive only states you accept your slavery, neither of which is truth.
I will occassionally open IE to test something.
I've also managed to get a few "casual" Windows XP users to switch to Firefox and they've have no problems. Usually this was after they called me because IE was "broken" (spyware or malware got it...)
Now that they are using Firefox, they don't call me anymore.
|To call me naive only states you accept your slavery, neither of which is truth. |
I see. I meant no harm. I will admit that I remain naive about some things, included is MSís Ďcriminal activitiesí (itís really too bad that the word criminal is left up to interpretation).
I serve my customers to the best of my abilities. This means that if a consumer gives me a ppt doc or pub doc, I have better be able to open it or I have failed the customer. To turn somone away becasue I donít like their file-type, is criminal IMO.
I simply look at it in a different light. Iíd rather deal with a company which some consider to be criminal (thatís a whole other thread ... as is this), than turn customers away.
This will be my last comment, as limboís question was not about MSís dealings:
limbo, I apologize for getting this thread off topic. My bad. >:0(
--> Now back on topic!
I was recently contacted by 2 peolpe about I site I'd just finished testing, who used AOL -- On Mac! What are the odds? I can vouch for 2 users that use AOL. My site created undesired results (which I am unsure of how I am going to rectify it as of now) on the AOL for OSX browser >>?<< Again, what are the odds ... 2 users, one site, same week, both Macs using AOL.
Back on topic ;)
4 Macs: 50/50 Safari and Camino nighlies
I use Opera version 8.01 now. I occaisionally use IE or FireFox but Opera 99% of the time.
Ditto what Muskie said, plus Safari on extremely rare occasions.
Personal: Safari & Firefox (Latest)
Work: We have 50 Macs all runnin OS9 all with IE 5.1 some use netscape.
(We have dual boot G4's but no one here wants to learn OS X and they are fearful of using our older programs in classic mode.
IE only for testing.
Definitely Safari 2.0 for the Mac (G5/10.4). I have IE for the Mac, but I don't use it for anything but testing Web pages. I test on all browsers, both platforms. IE for both PC and Mac appears to be less standards compliant, but nevertheless has the broadest installed base (on the PC/Windows platform). *sigh*
fast compared to firefox and safari. nice browser, the best for me, uses coco graphic interface (nice graphics). Pet Peeve: can't put in multiple passwords at once (like the firefox cousin), maybe the next version will have it.
Also use opera and ie for testing (fairly rarely), latest opera is nice too.
I always keep on the latest version of Firefox on hand along with the ultra-nifty developer toolbar.
I've got an iMac G5, a Powerbook G4 (and an iMac G3 for my parents). All of which are running Firefox, but also have Netscape, Opera, Safari and IE for testing purposes. I also have an actual PC with various versions of IE, Netscape, Opera for testing purposes too.
On a sidenote, I have -gasp- Microsoft products on the Macs. As mentioned, they're needed for Word, Powerpoint and Excel documents which I come across often enough. Also, my father likes typing letters and such with MS Word on the iMac G3.
Oh, I forgot to mention... most Mac users I know around here are very loyal, die-hard Firefox users. I even got some PC users to switch to Firefox and they love it.
Me personally, the Netscape-style tabbed browsing and the developer toolbar are the best!
Slightly off topic.....
Is there any way to import Safari bookmarks in to FireFox.... that is the only thing truly keeping me from making FireFox my default browser.... I have way too many important bookmarks to hand import....
mostly safari version 2.0 (412.2)
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