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Transfering data to new hard drive

 9:06 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I need to transfer all the data on my G5 (os, files, server, mysql, ect) to the hard drive on my G4, basically cloning my G5 setup; does any one know how I can do this?




 9:29 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I use Retrospect.

It can be done though, a number of ways.

You can boot the G4 to disk (any external HD, Target, anything you can get it to boot from other than it's own HD), "Target Firewire" the G5, use disk utility to erase the G4's disk, and then copy the G5's info over via drag-'n-drop.

You could create a disk image (.DMG file) using any number of programs (Including Disk Utility), of your G5's Hard Drive and load that onto the G4

You could buy Norton Ghost

You could buy Retrospect

The list goes on ... and on ... and on

You could google it ;0)

-- Zak


 10:39 pm on Jun 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

If I drag and drop will it get the invisible files?


 10:01 pm on Jun 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have used Carbon Copy Cloner with good success (I am not affiliated with the program in any way, just a user)....problem, though, is if you make an exact copy of your hard drive...the G4 may need something different in the System to work correctly. So, I would install a System onto the G4 and copy everything else.

If I drag and drop will it get the invisible files?

No, not all of them.


 11:55 am on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

If I drag and drop will it get the invisible files?

That depends on what OS you are booted to and what you consider drag & drop. If booted to OS 9, then yes hidden files WILL move. If booted to OS X and using terminal logged in as root, then yes hidden files can be moved. (Though some would not consider using terminal drag & drop, it is just as easy in my opinion.

-- Zak


 7:39 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am doing the same thing right now, however to prep a back up for my transition to Tiger.

I purchased Retrospect and have had nothing but troubles getting it to do its job. I am running the latest Panther BTW.

Not to steal this post... My experience with Retrospect
I purchased LaCie 250 GB (Designed by Porche ha!)External Drive per suggestion for compatibility and Retrospect. Retrospect keeps telling me the external drive is busy. Ha! Read the manual. Tried it on SmartDisk as another option- drive is still busy.

My issue seems to be a common one from searching - so I would suggest nix on Retrospect. Unless someone has a fix, my ears are open - I am doing the Disk Image now...


 10:44 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)


Are you using Retrospect Workgroup Edition?


 11:37 pm on Jun 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

No I am not... For the life of me I can't sort it out. After my post here I went searching again to have another look for solutions regarding the problem.

One forum suggested DataBackup by prosoft... I am testing it out now and works perfectly. Thought I agree Restrospect has a stack of options - DataBackup seems to be the ticked and then some.

I have used Retrospect before on OS 9 and never had any problems. OS X seems to be another issue for me. I guess I will have to sort it out later when I actually have time.


 11:52 am on Jun 7, 2005 (gmt 0)


To be honest with you, I couldn't get any other versions of Retrospect other than 'Workgroup' to work correctly for me. I finally made the switch per a suggestion from a client of ours no less. I steped out on a ledge and spent the money. I am not saying it will work for you, I just happened to be fortunate that this person was right, given the number of options Retrospect has. No other program matched the versitility ... but just the same, no others match the finicky-ness of the program either. Go with what works ;0)

-- Zak


 7:33 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Zak - Thanks for the reply. . . I will look into it as a solution. I just purchased this copy of retrospect, perhaps I can get the folks to take it back and upgrade me to the workgroup edition ;)



 4:57 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm about to do this very thing with a G5 and G4 at home. This is my plan:

1. Connect the two machines with a firewire cable.
2. Boot the G5 in target disk mode ("t" key on startup).
3. Boot the G4 from it's install disk (in this case a Panther CD)
4. Run Disk Utility > Restore using the mounted G5 as the source and the G4 as the destination.

And that, if it works (which it ought to) will preserve every single file, visible or invisible.


 2:45 pm on Jun 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

3. Boot the G4 from it's install disk (in this case a Panther CD)

I would be curious to see if this works, as I don't know if the install disk has support for Firewire target mode...let us know how it goes.


 8:01 pm on Jun 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

The G5 is what get's booted into Firewire target disk mode, so it shouldn't have anything to do with the G4 booting from the install disc. But, I'll let you know how it goes -- I should be doing it this weekend at the latest. :)


 6:48 pm on Jun 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

whoisgregg, did it work? sounds like a good way of doing it.


 6:00 pm on Jun 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

1) CarbonCopyCloner doesn't work under Tiger
2) MacCentral has just had an article/review on this subject [macworld.com...]


 4:51 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry, fell behind before the conference and haven't gotten to it yet. :(

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