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Hell Froze Over - Introducing iTunes for Windows
EliteWeb




msg:975665
 6:57 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I started laughing this morning when I saw Apple.com homepage stating that hell has frozen over announcing the release of iTunes for Windows. :) Has anyone tried it on their PC yet? Im downloading now for the PC. What is it missing that the Mac version has or are they identical?

 

bcolflesh




msg:975666
 7:18 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I started laughing this morning when I saw Apple.com homepage

That's the reaction I have everytime I look at it.

dragonlady7




msg:975667
 7:38 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

iTunes is one of the reasons I Switched.
Not that I regret it.
Laugh at apple.com? Heh. I laugh every time I have to apply another Critical Security Update to my Winbox at work. Who's laughing now?
Something to be said for being a niche market.

Anyhow, good for Apple, now I can send my friends pirate copies of my .aac files, and not have to bother with burning them to audio cd's. ;)
I mean, uh... now they too can enjoy the benefits of the best mp3 playing program on the market. (It is. It's sweet. It's full of fabulous features. And it looks pretty. And it sorts your music out for you. It's just... nice. You'll see.)

Yidaki




msg:975668
 7:44 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

The best Windows app ever

... and a xp screen shot. I loooove these apple marketing guys. :D

jimbo_mac




msg:975669
 8:24 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Looks like Apple have been busy,

Deal with Pepsi and AOL-

h*ttp://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/oct/16pepsi.html
h*ttp://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/oct/16aol.html

pleeker




msg:975670
 8:43 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm a longtime Apple-ite, and one of the Windows guys here in the office downloaded it this morning, started using it, and said the next time we hear from him is when he declares bankruptcy. :)

From what I see (from looking at his machine), it has all the same features and functionality, etc., as the Mac version.

Chndru




msg:975671
 9:07 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

iTunes 4.1 is available for Mac OS X, Windows XP and Windows 2000

What about 98 :(

HughMungus




msg:975672
 9:33 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

[quote]What is it missing that the Mac version[quote]

Right-clicking. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

hazardtomyself




msg:975673
 9:58 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Are you kidding? They had to do something. I can't believe they didn't roll out music to the PC industry at the same time they did the Macs. Napster is coming online at the end of October and then Apple won't have a chance with the PC market. IMO they blew their chance at being the music giant. Hell, I saw the Apple commercial and I tried to download iTunes cuz it's a cool idea, and didn't even realize it was only for Macs. I was about to buy a cheap Mac on EBay just for the music but I'll wait for Napster.

zeus




msg:975674
 10:08 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I got a Ipod from MAC and damn thats some high quality hardware and now I can use iTunes on the PC, great.

zeus

P.s Does anyone know here to change the 100db limit on the european IPOD, the France had another great idea that over 100db, we would die, I will not explane my feelings for that country here, its not well seen on the web.

pixelpusher




msg:975675
 10:23 pm on Oct 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've been using iTunes on my Mac since it came out. The latest version is hands down one of the best music players I've seen on a computer. I use Winamp on the PC, but now that iTunes is out, I'm going to be using that instead.

After using it for a couple hours, it seems to behave exactly like its Mac counterpart. Haven't tried buying a song online though.

EquityMind




msg:975676
 12:10 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't believe how long this download is taking over a highspeed network. Akamai must be jammed with requests.....

andy_boyd




msg:975677
 1:05 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Don't forget about the massive Apple / Pepsi promo starting with the Superbowl. From MacRumors: Steve Jobs announced that "100 million winning codes will be written on caps of 20ounce and 1 Liter bottles of Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, and Sierra Mist."

Then there is the Apple / AOL deal where 25 million AOL users will be able to purchase from the iTunes Music Store by simply using their screenname to login, AOL will take care of the billing.

Don't forget new iPod accessories too! Apple certainly pulled out the stops with this one! :-)

jamesa




msg:975678
 1:26 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> 100 million winning codes

Which works out to 1 in 3 bottles being a winner, from what I read somewhere today. That's a big promo. The AOL thing is big.

>> blew their chance

Nope. There will certainly be a few players in this arena. It's the wave of the future.... vinyl -> cassettes -> CDs -> this. Apple is poised to capture enough of the market to make them a major player, if not the leader. They already are the leader in portable music players. This is big win all around.

>> Hell froze over

LOLOL!

4crests




msg:975679
 5:14 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just downloaded my first songs via ipod for windows.

I LOVE IT!

By far the best i've tried.

digitalghost




msg:975680
 5:26 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>By far the best i've tried.

Napster and Kazaa were free, and I could get anything I wanted. :)

Josefu




msg:975681
 7:52 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

...Is it too late or can we use this thread for Apple's 'Switch' campaign? Welcome aboard new mac users! : )

creative craig




msg:975682
 8:18 am on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Have you seen their PC in the overview iTunes for windows section. The colours look distinctly mac-ish :)

Napster and Kazaa were free, and I could get anything I wanted.

...and winmx

HughMungus




msg:975683
 2:21 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

and then Apple won't have a chance with the PC market

I really don't understand what's so special about Napster. At this point it's just another pay-per-download service with a famous name.

dragonlady7




msg:975684
 2:21 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

apparently it looks and behaves just like iTunes for Mac.
Except apparently HughMungus says you can't right click. Which astonishes me, because you can right-click in the Mac version. (I only had a quick look at the Win version.)

You can still use your Kazaa etc. if you want; I just use iTunes as a playback mechanism, and a darn fine one at that. I think I've bought one song from the music store... maybe I haven't even done that, I don't recall. I was thinking about it. But then I noticed the record label was the RIAA so I didn't buy it. :>

I really like the Internet Radio stuff. It's pretty funky. That's what I'm listening to just now. :D

creative craig




msg:975685
 2:26 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I like the full screen visualizer, looks nice :)

hazardtomyself




msg:975686
 4:16 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> I really don't understand what's so special about Napster. >>

Good point. We'll see how Napster does in the "have to pay" market. But what made Napster so special is that is was one of those few products (much like Google is to the SE world) that took the Net by storm with no advertising. Very few products are as successful with little to no advertising. I would say Napster has a huge advantage just because everyone already knows about them. Isn't marketing a large portion of sales?

I would guess that iTunes needs a pretty good size campaign to capture the PC market. Probably a Home Page ad with Yahoo! , maybe EBay, and some TV spots again. IMO

EliteWeb




msg:975687
 4:20 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think Apple could pull off getting a nice chunk of the PC market with the right advertisement :)

:D

creative craig




msg:975688
 4:24 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think Apple could pull off getting a nice chunk of the PC market with the right advertisement

Agree whole-heartedly. They have a very good product in the making for PC's.

jamesa




msg:975689
 4:31 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

They currently are the market leader by far for both (legal) music downloads and portable music players, it's just a matter of maintaining it.

By the way there's a replay of the announcements at Apple's site here [apple.com]. Very interesting... Steve at his best. And just as an aside, if you've never seen Steve Jobs do a keynote I highly recommend this.

pleeker




msg:975690
 4:36 pm on Oct 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't know if the average 13-year-old would choose iTunes Music Store over Napster -- Napster certainly has name-recognition with that crowd that Apple can't match.

Then again, I don't know if the average 13-year-old is going to pay for music anywhere.

I think Apple will make inroads in the older PC crowd, where I would assume there's going to be some curiosity from the Wintel users to see what it's like to test drive an Apple product. And I think Apple is betting that test drive is all it will take to find some permanent users/buyers.

I know I've seen plenty of Wintel curiosity around here in the past 24 hours.....anyone else? What reactions are you hearing?

hyperkik




msg:975691
 5:16 pm on Oct 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

If the average thirteen-year-old has a monthly allowance for music purchases, as iTunes permits, I expect that the average thirteen-year-old would fully exploit that allowance, even if also obtaining "free" music elsewhere.

I think one of the key factors for the success of iTunes is Apple's deep pockets. It is estimated that Apple makes thirty to forty cents per download, and that its expenses per download may be three times that much. Apple admits that iTunes will never be a significant money maker, even if it dominates the market. Apple has interests beyond the sale of music which inspired it to create, and to work for the success of, the iTunes service. I am not sure that competitors who seek primarily or exclusively to profit from the sale of music will have a rosy future (unless by "rosy" you mean "filled with red ink").

coolcreep




msg:975692
 8:31 pm on Oct 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Love it too...But Apple did make an agreement with The Beatles Apple Music label that they would never enter the music service because of the name but hell this is 2003 and the Beatles are no longer...Curious to see how Paul's lawsuit will turn out.
More: [macobserver.com...]

jimsull




msg:975693
 9:00 pm on Oct 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hell Froze over and so did my computer.

There have been huge problems for people using Win 2000. I myself experienced them but luckily have recovered. There's a discussion board at apple.com with over 100 messages about it. Computer freezes up on restart about 70% through loading of Windows.

Most problems seem to be with Dell boxes but others with Gateway and "home" built boxes are having problems too.

Fix that worked for me is when restarting machine you use F8 key to get to Troubleshooting and then choose Last Known Configuration. On next screen be sure to read whole screen. I had to hit the L key to get the right configuration. This allowed machine to fully load Windows and then I immediately uninstalled iTunes and that fixed it.

This worked for me but others have not been as lucky.

mrnoisy




msg:975694
 9:57 pm on Oct 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

I like it. The only reason it wouldn't become my default player is because I like the fact that Windows Media Player can be minimised to the taskbar on XP and be operated from there, saving desktop real estate. The visualisations are strikingly similar to the default WMP visuals. Also, after installing, it changed all my PSD files to opening with Quicktime without asking me.

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