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I Need a New Hosting Company
my current hoster has lousy stats interface
davester28




msg:974176
 8:21 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

My site uses frames heavily, and my current hoster's stats don't work correctly with the frames.

Any suggestions? I'm using the big Y to host my .com right now.

Any help greatly appreciated!

 

MWpro




msg:974177
 10:53 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is moving to a non-frame layout an option for you? I don't know how your page works, but there are many advantages in doing so, especially with search engines.

trismegisto




msg:974178
 12:07 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

What do you mean with lousy? What would you expect from the stats?

Recently i also decided to change my host, i used the advanced search in findmyhosting.com. I donít know if that site is reliable, but it suited my needs.

davester28




msg:974179
 2:10 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

The stats are lousy because...

A: There is no way to filter a time period, in other words, what hits did I get this month, this week, what's getting hit today, etc... Just a total number of clicks per page.

B: Pages with frames show zero hits, always

C: Very buggy, for instance, when i click "referrer", and "search engines" to see who's sending me hits, it only shows google, even though i get hits from many search engines.

D: I can see keywords from google for certain pages, and not for others, and from NO other search engines

E: I have been crawled, but have no logs to check on the crawls, and can't even tell from my stats that I have been crawled.

These are just examples, I'm totally blind as to my traffic

davester28




msg:974180
 2:23 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

MWPRO said... "Is moving to a non-frame layout an option for you? I don't know how your page works, but there are many advantages in doing so, especially with search engines."

= Well, the frames work well for me in all other regards. As far as the search engines, they haven't had a problem with my pages, as I put a copy of the meat of my page in the "no frames" area of my page.

Also, my stats problems are bigger than frame issues. A running total of page clicks ( with no date filters ) just doesn't do the trick for me. I can't even reset all of my page hits to zero (I asked their tech support, and they wouldn't either). (See above post for more problems)

SlowMove




msg:974181
 2:41 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've had problems with stats programs that hosts run. Is that really a good reason to find another host? I would think that other issues are more important, like if the servers stay up and running. You could always download the log files and run any number of stats programs. I don't know if that would help with frames, but it seems to me that log files are log files regardless of the host, right?

davester28




msg:974182
 2:55 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

They don't offer the log files with my package. But now that you mention it, they do have more expensive hosting packages that include access log downloads.

I hadn't gotten excited about that option, as a text log didn't sound like what i needed. But, your suggestion of a third party program to look at the stats is awesome. Are there any free programs, or inexpensive ones that anyone could recommend?

Many thanks to everyone!
Davester

lukasz




msg:974183
 3:46 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Changing the host wouldnt help. Standart packages included with hosting wouldnt get you better stats. For that reason I broke out of frames and I am very happy about that. I thought frames worked well for me, but only after I drop it I learnt how wrong I was.
I can use standart stats packages now.
The page size is cut down by 2/3.
The page loads faster.
Server load is down as well.
My site appear much higher in search engines.
Do you need more reasons?

SlowMove




msg:974184
 3:55 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Are there any free programs, or inexpensive ones that anyone could recommend?

Wusage - but there are other opinions.

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claus




msg:974185
 4:10 pm on Jun 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

First, i agree that you should consider a redesign without using frames. This has nothing to do with the stats though.

You say that you have your page contents duplicated in the "noframes" space. This is not a very good idea, as your pages are now twice as "heavy" as they could be. Simply put, it's not very user-friendly, plus it seems ..hrm.. like.. well.. *deleted* ... to serve the content two times for each page.

I do not know the major SE's policies toward duplicated content, but i am sure others do.

But, your suggestion of a third party program to look at the stats is awesome

Here, i would recommend you to look for a hosted stats/tracking solution. These can give you good stats no matter if you have frames or not.

It's not a counter, though, like the so-called "stats" your current host gives you. Apart from this it works the same way: put a little script at the bottom of the pages you want to count, then simply read the stats right off your browser.

There are a lot of them out there. Try searching for "hosted stats", "hosted tracking", "hosted traffic measurement" or whatever you prefer to call it.

/claus

...ooops.. prices.. from free to very expensive.

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