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msg:967049
 8:53 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I have one website which is very high on search engines for some very competitive keywords and it brings me good traffic. The site is an auction site. If I were to buy another auction site and transfer the users to the new site how can I still keep these high rankings?

 

specter




msg:967050
 2:09 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

On wich SE are you hi-ranked? Google I guess...
Well,if you change web site (and domain, I suppose),to keep your ranking you have to repeat the existing inbound links on the new web site exactly as on the old one.
done this,probably you will loose your current ranking but at the next crawling you come back at your place.

MusicClub




msg:967051
 7:36 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes its on google. How do I repeat the inbound links thats almost impossible. I have over 1,500 inbound links you mean I have to change the url of all those links?

I have a more important question. What If I keep the same auction site that has these rankings on Google. I love the traffic of the site but the domain is not top notch. I have a top notch domain that fits in perfectly with the site. What is the best way to change over this domain to the site without even risking losing the rankings. Losing the rankings is not an option since they are so great.

Shai Neubauer

specter




msg:967052
 6:53 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

What If I keep the same auction site that has these rankings on Google. I love the traffic of the site but the domain is not top notch. I have a top notch domain that fits in perfectly with the site.

Keep the same site! if you have a good traffic, why do you want to change domain? It makes nonsense...
It doesn't matter if it isn't at the top notch ;it's important the traffic.
Moreover,Are you sure that with the new domain you would get more traffic?
keep in mind that more Page Rank or a higher ranking in general,doesn't mean automatically more traffic,and more traffic doesn't mean automatically more business due to the increase of the "spam" traffic level.

So,I advice you to keep the current site and optimize it to increase its visibility.

Otherwise,you have to evaluate carefully if the change worth the work.
Since,assuming that this second web site with a higher ranking has completely different target and content,once you've transferred the pages in it you have to optimize them for the new target,so to change completely contents and tags,and even some links and it is a hard work that unnecessarily rends you the expected results.

MusicClub




msg:967053
 3:33 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

The new site does not have a page ranking or any rankings. Its not a new site its actually just a domain. The domain is a top notch domain probably worth a million dollars if sold to the right company. This domain will bring automatic respect to the site. I dont want to lose the rankings of my current site but I would love to integrate the domain with it. How can this be done without losing the rankings?

specter




msg:967054
 4:00 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

The domain is a top notch domain probably worth a million dollars if sold to the right company.

What do you mean exactly with "top notch"?

The new site does not have a page ranking or any rankings. Its not a new site its actually just a domain.

But do you want to transfer in it the content of your current site or you want to use it just as a "mirror" (to convoy traffic on the "older" one)?

explain me that and I could give you some advices.

MusicClub




msg:967055
 4:20 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Top Notch I mean the domain would sell for a million dollars if sold to the right place. Im not sure I can say it here but the domain is order dot com.

I dont want to just use the traffic from the domain even though traffic is good. I just want the users to know that its a serious site. With a domain like that it brings automatic respect and trust to a site because they think its a big company running it with such a domain. I want to use the same content I have on my original site now I just want to be able to use the domain.

specter




msg:967056
 6:05 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK;let's see:

You want to use the new domain transferring in it the content of the current web site,that's right?

Than you would that the new web site has the same ranking of the previous one ,right?

Obtaining so the same visitors traffic but on a more reliable and respected domain...

Well,it's a very hard work...

For the first,the new domain has to be indexed on the SEs;

For the second,you have to upload in it the existing page as they are on the current one;

But for the third,if you want really keep the same exact ranking YOU HAVE TO REPEAT ALL YOUR INBOUND LINKS AS THEY ARE ON THE CURRENT ONE.

ONLY IN THIS CASE GOOGLE WILL RECOGNIZE YOUR NEW DOMAIN WITHIN THE NEXT CRAWLING AND WILL GIVE YOU THE SAME RANKING.

MusicClub




msg:967057
 6:20 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

yes thats exactly what I want to do.

The new domain is indexed by google and other search engines. I cannot take this type of risk with my site since I have some very valuable rankings. Is this the only possible way to do this?

I have thousands of incoming links I cannot change every single one of them into the new domain since that would be impossible.

specter




msg:967058
 6:43 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately there aren't other ways.

Changing url/domain is always a troublesome thing.

I realize that it's not possible to recover all your inbound links but otherwise you haven't any certainty about new ranking.
You could try to recover almost the main ones (the ones that brings you the more Page Rank)and see what happens...
in alternative you have to build a completely new links network...but in this case you have to wait a lot of time before to see the results and not necessarily they will'be the expected ones.

MusicClub




msg:967059
 7:29 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Specter thank you so much for the advice I really appreciate this. I have one last question for you.

What If I was to forward the domain name to the original site. Also on the original site just change the logo to say order dot com instead of the old domain. Would that keep my rankings if I actually leave the same site and domain but just change the logo and forward the new domain?

Shai

specter




msg:967060
 7:32 am on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

This seems to be a good idea.
But be aware that Google could recognize redirecting commands as spam tecnique and could penalize the page/s that contain it.
So,keep ready to loose the forwarding domain...

As I said is a troublesome thing...

You could to do this:

Use the "important" domain to build a completely new web site,than inform the current site visitors of the new url preparing a specific link to it.

In this way there are no redirecting commands and no duplicate contents ; you will keep your ranking and traffic,and Google will be happy...

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