| A Leap Into .... Part 2
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gregor

msg:960373 | 4:44 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0) | I just read Marty's thread and have a couple questions of my own. Here's my story: I graduated from University with a BA in English Lit almost 3 years ago. After school, I bartended for 2.5 years. Since October I've been working as a temp at a high profile Canadian crown corporation (the pay is bad and my job even worse). My interest in language is still there but I don't write as much anymore. No, I don't want to teach or be a journalist. Since '99 or 2000 I've been interested in webdesign and development but I've only really taken it up within the past 4 months. I've been teaching myself HTML, CSS, some PHP and I love it! I've applied to a couple colleges and am going to, with any luck, be heading BACK to school in September. The programs I've applied for are both a year long and both offer co-op. Here's what I'll learn in each: 1. Web Development: HTML, XHTML, PHP, CSS, JavaScript, Windows/Unix/Linux protocols, ASP, Access, MS SQL & MySQL, fully functional e-services site, 2 month minimum co-op (5days a week), blah blah blah ... 2. E-Commerce: HTML, XML, WML, ASP, VBScript, JAVAScript, Access and SQL, Visio, MS Project, Internet EDI, ERP (using SAP) + a real world group consulting project and a 1 day/week co-op (unsure of length) ... My question ... Given the current state of the market which would be a better decision? I'm sort of leaning toward the E-Commerce program. Why? Because it'll be combination of learning hands-on-technology and business theory as it pertains to the web. Also, I fiigure that I can learn HTML, XHTML, CSS, PHP and MySQL on my own. Your opinions? Sorry for the novel ....
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JamesR

msg:960374 | 9:16 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0) | >I graduated from University with a BA in English Lit Heh, me too ;) Either route will get you going, just depends what you want to do. Are you thinking design or webmastering the back end of a server, database, or shopping cart functions?
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robert adams

msg:960375 | 8:26 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0) | by the time you finish either one most of what you learn will be outdated :) You could probably teach yourself just as much in half the time and be making a living at it sooner. luck, robert
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marty12550

msg:960376 | 2:20 pm on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0) | There was a need for Part 2! :) Being that I am not going back to school anytime soon (and if I did I would enroll myself into the 5 moth program for underwater welding- yes, I am being for real)- what should I focus on? PHP? ASP? MySQL? Javascript? CSS? XHTML? DHTML? I feel comfortable with HTML My goals? To be able to get a job creating websites, with the UNIX Admin background I like working on the backend (the BIG plus- having to deal a lot less with end users), plus had some Oracle backend experience- and like the DB side of it as well. I LOVE ripping those machines apart and putting them back together, making them run faster, and I love making a website (making them "cool", functional, easy to use)
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gregor

msg:960377 | 2:46 pm on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0) | Marty, If you like the backend stick with the backend :) ... PHP, ASP, MySQL, Oracle etc. I'd eat up as much as possible about backend scrirpting if I were you. There will always be people who call themselves "designers" just because they know HTML, CSS, Dreamweaver and Photoshop (the front-end stuff). They aren't though. Designers, IMHO, are the ones that understand the theory behind the visual ... ie. why a page works and the construction behind it. I am NOT a designer but I wish I was ... No hurt in learning everything you possibly can -- just make yourself more employable by becoming an "expert" on the backend stuff. My $.02 ....
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