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Ayanami

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Msg#: 1123 posted 11:21 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm a student at university, and I'm looking at webdesign/development as a part time job. I already know pretty good HTML from making my own personal websites, although I've never really used a WYSIWYG type editor. I also know some CSS, how to use Photoshop, and some aspects of design. (Blinky neon text=BAD!)

What skills should I develop to get a decent job in this field? Java + javascript? Perl? Dreamweaver?

Thanks much!

 

JamesR

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Msg#: 1123 posted 12:08 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver seems to be the popular choice but I code everything by hand and do just fine with that.

I would learn usability concepts, the study of how users interact with websites. Jakob Nielsen has a couple books on that that are worth reading.

I personally wouldn't worry about spending time with java. Learning some Internet Marketing will greatly enhance your web design skills, IMO.

progex

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Msg#: 1123 posted 12:18 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'd recommend developing your skills as PHP. It's a highly-growing scripting field with lots of support.

Java and Javascript aren't that necessary, as you can find free scripts online that can fulfill the job.

pleeker

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Msg#: 1123 posted 12:43 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Gotta agree with JamesR about learning Internet Marketing. Creating the site is only half the equation -- marketing and promoting it can't be forgotten. If you can assist successfully with both aspects, you should have very happy clients.

Birdman

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Msg#: 1123 posted 12:45 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I suggest delving into JavaScript on the client-side. Don't rely on it for important functions, however, as it may well be disabled by the user.

As far as server-side languages are concerned, you may want to learn both ASP and PHP. Personally, I don't care for ASP, but MANY potential employers do.

You should probably get a basic understanding of PHP and ASP, just to have your bases covered(albeit, only two bases).

Good luck

balinor

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Msg#: 1123 posted 3:13 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think it all depends on exactly what kind of work you are going to be doing. Find what aspect you LIKE about web design (graphics, HTML, databases, templates, etc) and focus on that to start. It is difficult to try to learn all of these skill sets in the beginning. I'd suggest starting smaller (HTML & CSS) and then maybe incorporating some Javascript and THEN move up to PHP or ASP. Start with the basics.

mep00

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Msg#: 1123 posted 8:59 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

The first thing you need to realize is that design and devlopment are very outlooks, dispite the fact that there is often a lot of overlap. Design starts with the look and feel of a sight and then works towards the HTML/CSS, and finally the server. Unfortunatly, most designers seem to get stuck on the look and end up doing a losy job on the rest.

As a developer you need to start with what the site is suppose to do and then deside how best to impliment it. In theory, a developer is mostly a project manager: deside what need to be done and who to do it. In practise, deside what needs to be done, do what parts of the job forwhich your skills are suited, and if necessary, farm out the rest.

In my experiance, programing tends to lend itself better to development than does design, but there are plenty of designers who are able to also see the big picture. The saying "Don't judge a book by its cover," applies to Websites even more so, but it can be hard to remember when you're the one who desinged the jacket.

As far as the technical part of your question, unless someone else will be making the choices, learn php/mySQL on the server side, and hand coding XHTML/CSS with at least a good understanding of javascript on the client side. For usablity theory, Jakob Neilson [useit.com] is very good, as a rule of thumb, to follow, and probably the best place to start. As far as graphics goes, PaintShopPro is good, and many (most?) people are fond of Photoshop, but in truth, I'm the wrong one to ask.

thehittmann

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Msg#: 1123 posted 10:40 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

yes i use psp7 but if you wanna make insanely good images and animations 3ds max but you pretty much need a degree just to use that.

Ayanami

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Msg#: 1123 posted 7:21 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks a lot, everyone. It looks like I'll be diving headfirst into PHP and MySQL first chance I get.

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