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please help me figure out what im doing wrong
now i built why wont they come

 4:36 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

i have built this site its been up for a few months google has crawled it but the only way i can find it on google is to search for the exact url of the site. i even tried searching for the url then coping the description that google give and then searching for that and it wont pull up. have i done something wrong on the site thats making it unsearchable? the address is
any input would be alot of help

Jon Stephenson

i edited the url out.

[edited by: little at 4:57 pm (utc) on Dec. 26, 2003]



 4:42 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello and welcome to the forum. You may want to edit out your URL, as it's not allowed on this site.

I recommend getting other sites to link to yours and you'll get indexed fine.



 4:58 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Dear Birdman!

i dont know why the admin has not allowed the URLS! so, is their any other way which will show the URL to you, for Testing?


 5:02 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Are you little or are you mubarak_zeb?

A question was posted under little and then another was posted by mubarak_zeb.


 5:03 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

links would help with the ranking but would it explain why it dosent pull up at all in the sites for the words that google shows in the description if it pulled up on something like page 5000 i would understand but its not in the results at all
i search for the terms " TruckALL VanGo Cargo vango " and i look at all 89 results and its not there but that is the first part of the description that you get when you search for the site by the url.
another question i have is i have another site that links to this one that is on google but when you search for links to this site it says there are none.


 5:08 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

There are so many factors, it's hard to tell.

One thing that I noted in your code, is the lack of any <h> tags. It might seem to be a small thing, but Googleguy has dropped hints that <h> tags is something that is looked for.....and therefore if not found what that might do.

The no urls is to keep the discussion generic, which is a great thing. Users can ask for help via sticky if necessary.

<added> BTW Welcome to Webmaster World. </added>

<added2> The lack of the backlink showing from on your other site could be because Google doesn't show backlinks from all sites with low PageRanks. </added>


 6:15 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Your site is not fully indexed yet. I would simply go on trying to get links pointing to your site and let Google do it's thing. You will get in eventually.


 7:29 pm on Dec 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Check out this Building a perfect page [webmasterworld.com] post from a few days ago. It really brings us back to what works.


 6:53 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

>lost his wife due to the fact the florida update caused his online business to flop

I've heard of guys losing their wives because certain things have flopped;).....but none attributable to the Florida update. If a business can't withstand a Google update it is in pretty poor shape, if a marriage can't withstand a Google update it is better over and done with IMHO.

Back OT: little, I would read a lot of the info on this and other boards. Many of those that make a fortune still spend hours per day reading this stuff, just panning for another gold nugget buried in a thread somewhere.

Putting it all together will take time. GoogleGuy makes some excellent posts that can save you weeks of time and make you small fortunes.....but you have to interpret each as you see fit.

There is no "magic" solution. Follow the general good advice, be very, very patient, try some more things, then some more, and after 9 months or so you will start to see how it all hangs together.

Never put all your eggs in any one basket, such as free Google SERP's. Spread the play as much as possible. 4 years ago Google was almost irrelevant, and who is to say it won't be so 4 years from now?


 12:02 pm on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I haven't seen your site but it sounds like your problem is one of a few things:

1. It's so new the SE's haven't indexed it properly yet

2. Bad use of title tag and description tag

3. SE's can't navigate your whole site because of link problems

4. No-one linking to you


1. Wait :)

2. If your company was called Fred and your site was about red widgets, blue widgets and green widgets Don't use "Fred - we sell widgets" but instead use something like "Red widgets for sale, Green widgets, Blue widgets. Welcome to Fred"

3. If you use flash or any kind of java for navigation make sure you also have standard hyperlinks as an alternative on each page. If you have lots of pages consider having a site map.

4. Search out some good quality sites that will link to you. This will boost how often you will get your cache updated.



 7:35 pm on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi little,

I think reading through the Google Knowledge Base [webmasterworld.com] will really help you in your situation.

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