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 8:19 am on Jun 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

For years I've used Boxer TKO for dos/extended dos. The main attraction has been its incredible list of features and speed. It is 100% machine language and you can be done and exit with many editing tasks even before a windows editor is even loaded, let alone editing.

It is starting to show some age though. The biggest being the need to edit huge files (40-50 meg log files) where boxer tko can only handle about 18meg.

So, I've looked at ultraedit (bought it), notetab (threw it away), and dozens of other editors. Ultraedit comes the closest, but it is a tad slow.

Is there a killer editor out there for windows? Multi language (programming lang I mean), syntax highlighting, kb macros, multi clipboards, multi undo, unlimited or near unlimited file size. That is about all I can think of at the moment.




 10:28 am on Jun 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

Brett, have you seen Editpad?
I like it. I can't say whether it'll cope with your requirements, but check it out at [ping.be...]

Good luck.


 1:28 pm on Jun 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

Experiencing similar problems. Funny how hard it is to come by a really good text editor.
Don't think Editpad will do the trick, engine: it's pretty wobbly on our system (occasionally
crashing it, for example, if you cut and paste stuff into the search and replace field), it doesn't
handle carriage returns too well, etc.

What version of NotePad did you throw away, Brett? I'm using v. 4.82 (PRO), so if yours was an
older one, you might wish to try it out again. Else, I have no other decent suggestions currently.
Bremer Corp's Notespad was a long time favorite, but that one is no longer supported.


 11:57 pm on Jun 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

I use Programmer's File Editor (PFE). It seems to work well enough.


 1:55 am on Jun 10, 2000 (gmt 0)


I use Notetab as well. It now supports file sizes greater than 16mb (it's old limit). It's still being actively developed which is a major plus. I looked at boxer and liked it as well. However, the lack of script language(clips in notetab) is why I decided to go with notetab. I'd suggest you take another look at the new version.



 6:01 am on Jun 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

I asked your question as posed with all those features to the man behind the program analogx (works with analog to decipher host names), and this is his quick response:

"I use multiedit ( [multiedit.com...] ), it does just about everything
you've listed there - plus I love it! :)

I don't need such, yet, but there you have it.


 2:17 pm on Jun 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

pshea: Wasn't aware of this one yet - thanks for pointing it out!


 4:26 pm on Jun 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

Is the 'real version' of multitabs full 32bit? The demo looks to be 16 only (flat looking and micro file selector). Very interesting proposition.


I tried whatever the freebie version is called. I dunno what it was really - I just didn't like it. Is it worth a longer look? I seem to recall it was missing some fundamental option (kb macros?).

I'd really like to stick with the Boxer line, but their first Windows version doesn't have kb macs (a must for me).



 6:56 pm on Jun 22, 2000 (gmt 0)

Ralph, did you buy MultiTabs? That program is impressive, but how much better is the commercial version than the demo? The demo looked to be 16bit only.


 2:56 am on Jun 23, 2000 (gmt 0)

No, haven't found the time to check it yet. What I did license is NoteTab Pro which up till now offers everything I really require. BTW, only yesterday I had to open a 28MB file in NoteTab - worked like a song.
Don't know about max. length of macros, though.


 3:22 am on Jun 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

Big hello to all
Brett tells me not to be a stranger, so no more lurking:)

Try this, seems to work quite well for me.


 3:31 am on Jun 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

hi bartek, welcome "out"

ultraedit here, love it. will open a 50meg file. can do a mean macro. i don't like the newer version's html tag selection panel as well as the previous.

BT, don't know what you mean by slow, unless you're doing find and replace against a whole drive.


 2:21 pm on Jun 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

I'm spoiled - everything is slow compared to TKO. UE is slow to load, slow to open files, and slow to run through macros. To open the project files here for the board takes less than a second in TKO (press return and start typing, it is already loaded). The same take 5-7 seconds in UE. Changing one variable (200 hits) in 20 files takes 4-8 seconds in UE, while it is instant in TKO. I still like DOS fonts better :-) courier sucks. No no, don't worry about me. lol. I'm making due.


 2:49 pm on Jun 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

Yes, you are spoiled (I know the feeling). Face it, you are not going to find anything that isn't machine code that will perform. Your only hope is to wait for the PXXIV chip with the 483Ghz clock and 1024-bit Windows.

What I like most about UE is that it will open HUGE files --I can remember opening a 70Meg database file, but I expect it will go higher. It will also open ANYTHING. People are always sending me attachments written in some unknown word processor. With UE, I just go in and get the ascii. BTW, I had peeked inside the code of the 'I Love You' virus (I got hit twice) with it and decided it was nasty before it made press.


 10:58 am on Jun 29, 2000 (gmt 0)

On a related note: did you see the Ultraedit site [ultraedit.com] switched forum software to Discus...


 3:34 am on Jul 2, 2000 (gmt 0)

EditPlus ([editplus.com ]) is by far my favorite windows text editor.

You can use the user tools to syntax check perl, the internal browser can be mapped to localhost so you can see what the output looks like when you use server side scripting like PHP, ASP etc.. Syntax highlighting, auto completion, FTP, bla bla...

Really the only thing it's missing is a file browser like Homesite (Good but bloatware IMHO).

Check it out.


 10:55 pm on Jul 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

As a confirmed Linux Bigot I feel I have to add my recommendation ;)

I swear by Xemacs [xemacs.org] - it has made my working life soooo much easier and more productive.

There is a version for NT aswell - although I've never tried it and can't vouch for it on other flavours of Windows

There's a steep learning curve but believe me it's worth it ;)


 11:15 pm on Jul 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

Welcome SugarKane - we can use more *nix bigots around here as we are just a touch winders top heavy. I'm doing more and more linux work now that Opera is available for linux.

I wish I would have found EditPlus before purchasing UltraEdit. EditPlus has everything I need (almost). The only thing is it lacking is a killer keyboard macro setup. The default kbmac system is a bit wanting.

Other than that, it is one of the faster windows editors I've used.


 11:36 pm on Jul 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the welcome ;) and congrats on a great forum.

On (X)emacs macros are pretty well limited to sequences of keyboard shortcuts, but as the entire editor is extensible using Lisp, you can define any function you care to write, and link it to a key binding or then put it in a macro.

More to the point, most of the stuff you want to do will already have been implemented by someone else and so there are plenty of useful scripts out there that can mould emacs to your way of thinking ;)

Check news://gnu.emacs.sources for a selection...

(X)Emacs is not so much a text editor as an operating system :)


 9:02 pm on Jul 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

I normally use notepad.
However, I enjoy using the interface of a little program I downloaded called first page 2000. It's free and it has every tag in it. I don't normally need help with authoring, however its an enjoyable interface.

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