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Dreamweaver from scratch......
New to the program
brotherhood of LAN




msg:933657
 9:33 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I want to get my hands dirty with Dreamweaver, and lay frontpage down for a bit. Since every program has its major bonuses - what do you DW users have to say about the program?

What are your main reasons for using it, and what options should I be checking out :)

 

txbakers




msg:933658
 2:50 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

I thought this topic was well discussed in other posts on this board.

I use DW to help with the visual elements of layout - tables, cells, etc. It's easier to test different table widths and sizes by dragging the borders than it is to keep guessing at the code.

I also like the site management with DW.

But I do most of my real coding by hand.

DW gives a good clean interface. It's the difference between Windows and DOS. You can still run your computer in DOS, but Windows makes some things easier.

knighty




msg:933659
 8:16 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Some of the main reasons for me are:

Import tabular data - often need to get a CSV file into a table DW inserts the data into a nice table for you.

Put file - I love working on a page and hitting "put file" the file goes straight into the right directory without me having to leave the document I'm working on

Library Items and Templates - much time saving to be had by these will update and entire site.

Synchronize - when working on a large site with many files in many different directories its nice that DW compares files on the remote server and only uploads those ones that have changed.

Round trip image editing - you want to edit than image? just click edit image and fireworks boots up loads the image you do your stuff and click done. Even if you change the extension DW handles that for you.

Extensions - fantastic stuff available to save you effort and time.

I could go on but these are the features I use daily.

caine




msg:933660
 9:47 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

knighty that is an excellant overview of DW, i remeber visting some of the sites that you recommend for getting extensions.

once you get past the basics of dreamweaver you can start adding extensions, which are at the download centre at macromedia. Usually .js stuff, and a mixture of server tools, for larger sites.

the ability to drop in external objects, scripts, is pretty cool.

the reference library is excellant, which you can run live while editing code, rather than dropping into split, which is a pain on a small res monitor. Another point about the reference library is that it covers HTML / JavaScript / CSS, in which it is like having o'rielly pocket books at your side (funny thing is the reference library is by o'rielly).

All in all dreamweaver is pretty good.

BOL, one thing i would suggest, once you get a little feel for it, get a site online with the DTD statement at the top, and get a feel for the added code, or attributes that DW drops in, hence once you get into using the templates, u can edit them out and have validated pages.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:933661
 1:08 pm on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the feedback all,

yes tx, i appreciate the topic has been covered, but these are people who seem to use DW cos they cant be bothered to hand code ;) I'm used to FP and just wanted to seee what everyones recommends to the first time users, as opposed to the user who knows everything ;)

looks totally different to what im used to......

as for validated pages, im workin on a new site that validates, using includes etc, but hopefully when all is settled I can tinker them with DW as opposed to FP ;)

Cheers

txbakers




msg:933662
 1:49 pm on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

I find it much easier to tinker in a text editor, but for rough drafts, DW is great.

lorax




msg:933663
 12:18 am on Jun 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

but for rough drafts, DW is great

That's pretty much what I use DW for nowadays. As long as I'm not using CSS for positioning, DW is what I use for a visual tool. As soon as I'm happy with the mockup then I switch over to my code editor and just use DW to ftp my files to the server.

Tools I like within DW are the search and replace (can do the current file, or all files within a folder - sorry no undo here), and the javascript tools. I know they're supposed to be pretty fat code wise but I haven't learned javascript well enough to tweak them.

copongcopong




msg:933664
 1:20 am on Jun 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use DW4, but I prefer hand coding whrein its code view comes in very handy. However, it does not show the correct css positioning and you will still need to preview it using your browser. I don't know if this was addressed in DW MX. Hopefully.

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