| 8:12 am on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
NoteTab is quite well respected.
| 8:58 am on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
|Before you spend your money, try [url=http://www.editplus.com/]Edit Plus[/url] and/or [url=http://www.ultraedit.com/]Ultra Edit[/url]. Both are excellent for what we do. |
| 10:31 am on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
BB Edit rules.
The way it colorizes HTML, and what gets me, Perl, is priceless. Plus it's rock-solid, never mungs a file. Great operations to work on multiple files. I use it to edit binary files sometimes.
Last I checked it was Macintosh only.
On the *nix world there is, of course, Emacs.
| 12:27 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I'm very happy with Arachnophilia
| 12:49 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Macromedia Dreamweaver and Notepad for HTML
Ultradev for ASP......really helps organize things.
| 4:16 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
|http://www.textpad.com has been a great program for me over the years. |
| 4:28 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
For windows notetab is the a great all purpose editor.
| 5:11 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Beware of UltraEdit, its power is highly addictive. I'm using it as general desktop utility, not just html. Two features I find particularly useful; it will open huge files (handy for working directly in database flatfiles) and the macro function (though creating macros is not very intuitive, required some fumbling about on my part... but when they're finally made to work, wow!).
| 5:16 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
UltraEdit and Textpad. Can't live with out both. I find myself cut 'n pasting between the two all the time.
| 7:13 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Are any of these able to handle entire projects, and not only single files? I find that's key to saving the most time...
For those of you that program with the MS suite, something a bit like Visual Studio but for Web development would be amazing!
| 7:34 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
>Are any of these able to handle entire projects
UltraEdit has some features such as Find & Replace in subdirectories that makes it excellent for project handling and not just working in single files. I typically keep 10-15 individual files open in UE at any given time.
Though I do not use it, it also allows files to be classified by 'project/workspace' for opening.
| 7:48 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
|Current ones purchased and in on disk that I've used extensively in the past:|
EditPlus : fast, mdi, large files. used daily.
UltraEdit : powerful and great for binary edits. However, it's huge resource pig - slow. Macros run at glacial speed.
NoteTab : I don't get it. Clumsy and hard to use. Don't care for it at all.
Boxer for Windows and Dos : The fastest of the bunch. More keyboard oriented. Used daily for 10 years. I still like it. Winders version isn't quite to the power of the dos version yet.
The one I want but not taken the time yet, is [url=http://www.multiedit.com/]MultiEdit[/url]. A totally righteous editor (best I have ever seen).
If you like dials and knobs, Multiedit has more controls than any program I've ever used. It has EVERYTHING - blows all other editors out of the water combined. A true programmers editor and they've droped the price considerably from a year ago when it was ($395?) - now in the $200 range. http://www.multiedit.com (eval version ftp://ftp.multiedit.com/pub/demos/mew8eval.zip )
| 7:55 pm on Jul 24, 2001 (gmt 0)|
>now in the $200 range
New user is $129 download. (Shipped version, $199).
UltraEdit is currently $30 for download version. For our international members, it's also available in Spanish, French, & German editions.
| 12:54 am on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
|For you mac guys that like mega geeky stuff, this text editor does more than BBedit and it's shareware: super HTML editing capabilities. $30.00|
| 1:00 am on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
One big thing I will say for BBEdit: their email tech support is superb! I got less than 4 hrs turn-around time (and the right answer off the bat), even though the subject line of my support request email specified that I was using their free product (BBEdit Lite).
I plan to upgrade to their full version ASAP, because not only is Lite a really good program, but I know I won't be left fuming about lack of support if I ever do have a problem...
| 6:53 am on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
If you are doing ASP development, Visual InterDev has some nice features.
| 2:26 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
i recommend editplus. i've thrown out everything in else thanks to this little app.
| 2:45 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
The problem with EditPlus is that it gets crash happy at times. If you do big files at all with long lines (4-5k), it can lock up the machine left and right. There is a bug in the reformat routine...
| 2:46 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
i cant live without dreamweaver and ultraedit. What i particulary like with ultraedit is that "replace in files" function. Searches all files in dir and does find/replace + tons of other options.
| 3:11 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
In terms of handling a large site Dreamweaver is really good.
Search and replace entire folders or selected files by text, tags or source code.
you can then save common search and replaces.
Check in Check out feature allows more than one person to work on a site and not screw up what someone else has done.
You can attach notes to each document that you do or leave notes for other people on why or how you did something.
Import CSV files into a page and DW automatically creates a table how you want it to look.
You can send pics, links, colours etc. from one site to the next as it keeps track of everything.
Library files for those without SSI server access - multiple pages can be updated via one file.
OK that will do for now ;)
Oh yeah and the notepad type interface so that as you design visually you can see the 'live' code.
| 3:23 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Currently I use Dreamweaver (great for wysiwyg but not as good as HomeSite for code editing) which came with a free licence for HomeSite.
I also use Visual InterDev, but mainly only for Getting and Releasing files for use in HomeSite. I personally think InterDev is quite poor with the exception of the ASP autocomplete functionality.
We evaluated HomeSite and UltraEdit and homeSite came out the clear winner in our eyes. Having a look at EditPlus now which looks quite promising.
I think it comes down to what I always suspected. The best solution is knowing each apps strengths and using them for that. I constantly swap between topstyle, homesite and dreamweaver.
| 3:57 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Dreamweaver is'nt just a WYSIWYG. You can edit HTML as it is and then got to the visual editor to see how it looks.
Lets say you are editing a table in VIS mode you select a table, then click on the cell and bang only the code between those <TD> tags is highlighted right there and then! The best of both worlds.
I ALWAYS check the code, I do have 2 monitors which does help though ;) The ability to code visually and textually plus all the other features makes DW such a powerful tool. You can do pages in minutes with really clean code easily.
There are no weaknesses just strengths :)
contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
| 8:26 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
New to the Forum :) Hi People...
In terms if editors...
Homesite for Html
UltraEdit for Perl Scripts
*Didn't realize that you guys allowed blatant product promotion through the forum to such a focused audience :)
| 8:41 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
|I second Arachnophilia 4.0 at: http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index.html|
The author considers it [url=http://www.arachnoid.com/careware]'CareWare'[/url] - which, by the way, is a very nice philosophy. So there is no out of pocket cost.
It loads up really quickly. I use its find and replace feature on hundreds of files at once, all the time.
There is no messing with the code.
It is an excellent tool!
I've been using it for quite some time.
| 8:49 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
welcome to the forum stmlabs,
in reference to what you posted:
>>>>idn't realize that you guys allowed blatant product promotion through the forum to such a focused audience>>>
This is not allowed, and enorced by the admins, moderators, and system operator. Sometimes it takes a little bit for them to see it.....they have jobs too!
| 8:51 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Welcome to WebmasterWorld, stmlabs.
>allow blatant product promotion
No one is allowed to promote their own product or service (with the exception of their profile and the Commercial Exchange [webmasterworld.com]). When it comes to "the basics" such as browsers, editors, and graphics software there's not much way to avoid discussing specifics and making comparisons of the tools of the trade.
| 10:27 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
You should definitely consider EditPad Pro [editpadpro.com]. It's really powerful, and easy to use. It costs $30 US, but there is a freeware "lite" version, which has much of the same functionality.
| 10:28 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I swear by Arachnophilia and have since it came out. I fancy the "CareWare" concept [arachnoid.com], and his motto: "This site is dedicated to one overriding principle: there are no overriding principles -- only original, ingenious solutions."
Aside from being an HTML editor, it also edits text, rtf, perl, cgi, C++, and java, each with appropriate macros built in, plus the capability of making your own.
As an added plus for you geeks (listen up, Brett :) ), the guy was one of the original programmers for Mac Word, if memory serves, and while he has stuff on his site for regular non-geeks, he also has plenty of technical stuff.
| 10:34 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Oh, and I guess I should mention that many of my friends use emacs (for windows or unix), and it works extremely well. As a matter of fact, if you are willing to take the time to learn emacs, you will probably find it to be more efficient than any editor in existence, because it basically allows unlimited customization. Not to mention the fact that it's free. :) I don't use it yet because it takes a long time to learn, and I haven't had time to learn it.
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