Beagle
msg:934497 | 12:21 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Textpad all the way!
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rcjordan
msg:934498 | 12:42 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Hey Beagle, welcome to WmW!
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cherryl
msg:934499 | 1:42 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
If you are looking for a serious editor you might want to check out the latest release of ED for Windows. As an amateur myself, it's a bit over my head, but it should interest the pros.
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Robert Charlton
msg:934500 | 2:29 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
HomeSite used to be my favorite editor, but from the time it got sold to Allaire on, its releases have been increasingingly buggy... and the 4.5 series is reported to have serious resource problems. You might want to lurk on the Allaire HomeSite users forum [forums.allaire.com] for a while and see what's posted, though lots of disgruntled users have given up and switched, so you may no longer see the kind of candid (and scathing) feedback that used to appear. I'm a huge fan of NoteTab Pro, but not as a serious large project-managing website authoring tool. It can manage text pages pretty well, but not the rest of a website's resources. It is a great program, though, and I highly recommend it for general text editing and quick small html jobs. Several ex-HomeSite users who were also searching recommended it over Ultra-edit, though, for coding html. I've been looking for a while and not really found a good HomeSite replacement. I'm not doing a huge amount of site authoring, but I keep worrying that a project will come up. 1stPage 2000 crashed my system enough that I stopped using it, and it took forever and a half to load. HTML-Kit from chami.com is a nice freebie that I've played with and it's the best thing I've found so far. There is no documentation to speak of, though. On the HomeSite forums, HotDog 6.0 also had the reputation of being a resource hog. Last time I looked, the Arachnophilia website looked a little ragged, so I've hesitated putting time into the program. I'd love to hear more details about the software. Different editors, as I understand it, have different strengths, depending on the kind of color coding you need and what you're coding. It would be great, since this thread is going, to get specific strengths and weaknesses of the html editors described a little bit more.
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Xoc
msg:934501 | 8:03 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I'd like to welcome all the new poster's to WebmasterWorld that joined this thread: stmlabs, pokka, Beagle, and cherryl! Your input is what makes WebmasterWorld continue to grow as useful forum for information exchange. Thanks!
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alexjc
msg:934502 | 11:29 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Knighty, Hmmm, I downloaded the 24 megs of DreamWeaver's evaluation version on my slow modem... I don't rank it that highly at all. The interface is very strange: you see gaps through to your desktop between the toolbars and the main window (if you use the default settings), and when maximized the actual main window is cluttered by the tools. The whole thing is terribly heavy with regards to resources, and it takes about 1 min to startup on my 500 Mhz machine. As for the wysiwyg, it's not especially useful when you know what you're doing. I switched to the text editing, but that's below standards too (bad syntax highlighting, and limited text manipulation). The tools seems to confuse you rather than help you... in a very similar fashion to Notetab. I'm regretting the 24 meg download, so needless to say i won't be buying the product ;) Out of all the editors i've evaluated so far, UltraEdit 32 is by far the best. Multiedit is still on my list though :P Alex
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joshie76
msg:934503 | 11:34 am on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I have to agree with mainly with Alex but partly not. DW is great just to set up your layout and play at being a designer (thanks for the tips knighty but I have been using DW for a while now;)). But it's pretty poor when it comes down to the harder stuff - I'm sure macromedia are aware of this and that's why they still package it with HomeSite.
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knighty
msg:934504 | 12:49 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
OK, I'm going to bow out gracefully... I use DW for HTML, JS and CSS and yes the layout is a little strange but you do get used to it. As for the text layout colours etc. you can change these setting to what ever you want. If you are doing Perl etc then yeah DW probbably isnt for you. In terms or web management however it is unbeatable, I ve tried all the others Adobe Golive, Frontpage etc. Anyways I'm gonna shut up now and get my commission from Macromedia ;)
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kapow
msg:934505 | 1:36 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0) |
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A PHP EDITOR ?? I'm a big fan of DW. I was at their UK launch of v1, I have used v1,2,3 and now 4 :)
IMO
DW Strenghts:
- Excellent WYSIWYG
- Text editor for manual coding
- Basic java scripts and CSS
- Excellent Search & Replace (code, text... - site wide)
- Imports Flash (.swf) and other Macromedia stuff DW Weaknesses:
- FTP loses connection v easily on 300k+ files (56k modem).
- Cant create php (anyone know of a php editor?)
- Shortens long title tags
- WYSIWIG editor adds unecessary font tags sometimes
- It seems to alter complex nested table widths from fixed size to % (sometimes). DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A PHP EDITOR ??
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Ultimatum
msg:934506 | 4:04 pm on Jul 27, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I use Visual Interdev primarily, and can definitely recommend it for Microsoft technology based sites. It costs a bunch but has some great features for quick development. However, I also find that EditPad (www.jgsoft.com) does a great job of simple text editing. Its extremely fast and has a bunch of features. The Lite version is free, or you can get the Pro version for a small amount of cash.
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toadhall
msg:934507 | 5:36 pm on Jul 27, 2001 (gmt 0) |
kapow - http://www.phpedit.com/
I tried it out - worked OK, but I still prefer Edit Plus. I use it for PHP, Perl, C++, Java, as well as HTML and grocery lists. I've never had it crash as Brett describes.
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ijan
msg:934508 | 5:21 am on Jul 28, 2001 (gmt 0) |
| kapow, Try TextPad. It supports more than a dozen languages including PHP. Dozens of more syntax highlighting rule sets can be downloaded from their web site as well ( http://www.textpad.com ).
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caine
msg:934509 | 11:59 am on Jul 28, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Personally, I use a combination of:
Dreamweaver / notepad / homesite I find i get clean code, that is well received by the SE's Though the product RC Jordan mentioned, sounds very interesting.
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ShADe
msg:934510 | 3:22 am on Jul 30, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I use a combination of Synedit, HomeSite and of course my favorite MPS HTMLGate Premium.
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ritualcoffee
msg:934511 | 7:13 pm on Jul 30, 2001 (gmt 0) |
my favorite combo is [url=http://www.editplus.com]editplus[/url] and homesite. I don't really deal with graphical type o'stuff so I strayed from dreamweaver.
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tedster
msg:934512 | 6:58 pm on Aug 3, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Welcome to Webmaster World, ratsco. Have you given theHTMLEditor a good test? In particular, I was wondering about how well the FTP client functions.
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Acternaweb
msg:934513 | 12:34 pm on Aug 6, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I have used AceHTML Freeware and 1stPage (by ervsoft), both come with scripts/applets free. Ace updates the bugs frequently, while 1stpage is supposed to have a new verision released soon (it was due in april/may timeframe but has been delayed)
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skirril
msg:934514 | 6:25 am on Aug 18, 2001 (gmt 0) |
The best text editor (for any platform) has the following features: - ease of use
- syntax highlighting/autoindent for the languages you need
- other goodies (like call to external program). The best I have seen so far are UktraEdit for the Win32 platform and (X)Emacs and vi(m) for the unixoid platforms. There's a windows port of XEmacs, but it breaks several "design rules" of Windows Programs. Skirril
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BelleLeDoux
msg:934515 | 2:16 am on Aug 19, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Arachnophilia and text pad have served me pretty well.
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