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Netscape borders with sites designed in FP2002
Eh?
ojgibbins




msg:939936		 10:33 pm on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi

Please visit a site I am designing.

<sorry, no personal URLs>

No matter what setting I use the orrible black borders are every where in Netscape.

What is the problem? Please tell me I only need a patch.

(Shakes fist in the air)...Damn you Microsoft.!

Cheers

Owen

[edited by: tedster at 10:59 pm (utc) on Jan. 14, 2003]

 

tedster




msg:939937		 11:14 pm on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, ojgibbins

Netscape 4 is an older browser and it doesn't understand more recently adopted style rules -- such as border-left-width:0 and so on -- rules which more recent versions of FP may write into your code. But Netscape 4 does understand <table border="1">

Since all those other style rules are not understood, then all Netscape knows to do is give you a 1 pixel border! Try setting all your tables to border="0" where you don't want to see any lines. That's the most straight-forward way to deal with this issue.

I'm going to move this thread over to our WYSIWYG Forum where the Front Page people hang out. You'll stand a better chance of getting the help you need configuring FrontPage there.

tedster




msg:939938		 11:54 pm on Jan 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just one more comment -- even though WYSIWYG editors invite you to think about HTML as if it was a layout program, it isn't a layout program. So making changes in a WYSIWYG editor just on the basis of getting the "look" you want can lead to some nasty surprises in other browsers (as you just discovered.)

You definitely can create good sites in FrontPage and other editors, but it still takes some decent knowledge of HTML and CSS to really get it right.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:939939		 1:17 am on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

So making changes in a WYSIWYG editor just on the basis of getting the "look" you want can lead to some nasty surprises in other browsers

And that's what the FP default is AFAIK, it puts a grey border 1px thick on every table that's drawn using the WYSIWYG front end.

The code usually starts as <table border="1"....so if you use a search and replace tool across the whole site you can change that to border="0"

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