Has anyone tried it?
| 7:24 pm on Dec 30, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Does anyone have an opinion on Macromedia's new Contribute? Anyone tried it yet? I'm thinking it could be a good option for me - I'm probably going to have someone (who currently knows nothing about running/creating/editing a site) updating my Dreamweaver site for 6 months or so while I am going to be MIA.
I'll have to download the trial, but no time to spend on it at the moment. Also, any thoughts on what the price might be going up to, and when? It currently has an "introductory" price of $99.
| 10:32 am on Dec 31, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I've tried it and made a few comments here [webmasterworld.com]. It was only the evaluation I tried, but in the same discussion georgina23 gives some feedback on how her clients found the user update application.
| 10:49 am on Dec 31, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I thought that it was going to be an answer to several of my dreams, and at first glance that seemed to be the case.
Easy to set up, easy to explain, easy to 'lock down' to avoid people going places they shouldn't - you can specify user rights so that Joe may be able to edit text only, whereas Mo can get closer to the code - things were looking great.
Big but, however. We rely heavily on SourceSafe for shared site development, and despite DW4 and MX having great integration with both SS and WebDav, Contribute is not tied into either of them.
Big mistake, surely? The idea of Contribute is to allow team access to a site, so why on earth does Contribute not tie in with the same system DW uses for source control?
Contribute does have its own in-built roll-back system, and it works, but the product would have been a killer if they'd have just gone the whole way and fully locked it into the DW environment.
So, if you're not using source-control, and you just have a few users who will be making minor changes, then use it, otherwise, don't - I can see you ending up with a pretty fragmented mess otherwise, with all users ending up with their own disparate versions of sites, and the potential for changes being readily overwritten left right and centre.
| 4:02 pm on Dec 31, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Ooops - thanks for the input guys. BlobFisk, I checked the other thread, and then headed to Macromedia's site. Unfortunately I hadn't read their FAQ's yet. I'm on a Mac, for which it's not available yet. When it is, it'll only be for OSX. :(
Oh well, it was worth a shot. BTW, does the program then have to run on a network? If the designer has to run Contribute first to designate editable sites, etc., you'd need multiple licenses then for the editor(s) to use it, too. And if the designer WAS using it on a Mac, would the editor(s) be able to update on a PC? Sounds like too much of a hassle for my dinky operation. ;) I'm just going to have to do it the hard way and teach!
| 3:24 am on Jan 3, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Personally I wouldn't try it. We build components that do the the same thing for our clients but that's not why I wouldn't try it.
My thoughts are: Why would Macromedia build a product that directly competes with the web designer's ability to earn an imcome whether that's by updating web sites or by building components to do the same thing as contribute.
I have seen a couple of software developers "forget" what made them a success in the first and both companies have filed for bankruptcy. I think companies like Macromedia need to remember how they got there in the first place. Personally I have spents thousands of dollars with Macromedia and have determined to never spend another dime there.
Since we use Dreamweaver primarily for table structures and not for the database functions we will be looking for new software. Maybe even try Namo Web Editor.
Just my 2 cents!
| 6:51 pm on Jan 5, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|My thoughts are: Why would Macromedia build a product that directly competes with the web designer's ability to earn an imcome whether that's by updating web sites or by building components to do the same thing as contribute. |
Evolution happens! Adobe Acrobat competes with Web designers by making it easy to turn existing sales literature and publications into Web pages. Similarly, Adobe Photoshop Elements takes low-end bread-and-butter business away from professionals who use Photoshop. But there are a lot of people making money from Web design and graphics these days, and I don't see too many of them boycotting Adobe because of Acrobat or Photoshop Elements.
IMHO, products like Contribute will ultimately create more business for Web designers, not less, because they'll make it easier for more organizations to use the Web for everything from employee manuals to product catalogs to newsletters.