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Dreamweaver & Layers
how do i effectively use this tool
RobertPike




msg:938705
 10:31 pm on Dec 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hey All

I've never used layers in dreamweaver...has anyone out there used it? what is it's purpose? how does is help?

any advice appreciated.

 

ScottM




msg:938706
 12:59 am on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've played around with DW for awhile...but never got the hang of it. Perhaps others here can help?

caine




msg:938707
 1:10 am on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Layers is a different design environment to the standard table structure of a web page.

They are very good from a designers point of view, but the browser relationship with them is definetly, a major consideration, you can see massive differences between IE, NN and the WebmasterWorld favorite Opera. That is definetly something to take into account.

If your looking to get into layers, then the tutorials on the DM software is basic, but a reasonable introduction, the manual is good as well. Its worth reading about layers themselves, in the various forums in WebmasterWorld that deal with them. Their are loads of tricks from an SEO stance that one can do with layers, but watch your back if you decide to do them - search engine wise.

From a DW point of view the visual environment is very good, but as with all other wysiwyg's DM will add unnecessary code (non-validating). I do have to say that doing quick sketch outs of sites, i like to use layers for speed, but when it comes down to publishing sites, by far i prefer tables, SE's still read pages around HTML3.2, though some are going beyond this now, until a universal standard of SE's at least parsing HTML4 structured pages, i will be staying away from layers from a published point of view.

piskie




msg:938708
 1:45 am on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

If you make the transition to layers at the same time introducing CSS then you won't look back.
On the CSS forum, Nick is currently running a CSS crash course. He has just posted lesson 1.

If you follow this through I'm sure he will be getting into layers/divs for positional containers soon as further lessons are added.
This will drasticaly reduce your code bloat by getting rid of those code hungry tables and nested tables that are better resigned to the history book.<duck>

caine




msg:938709
 1:46 am on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Very true Piskie, unless Nick goes for pure CSS structured pages though we will have to see.

CSS crash course [webmasterworld.com]

BlobFisk




msg:938710
 10:53 am on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm a big Dreamweaver fan - but I never use the layers WYSIWYG palette, choosing to hand code it instead. I just don't find it powerful or flexible enough to take over from doing it by hand.

RobertPike




msg:938711
 2:52 pm on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

you guys are the bomb. thanks, for so willingly sharing your wealth of knowledge. This has been a great help. Even got a CSS lesson out of it.

GREATLY APPRECIATED GUYS!

Nick_W




msg:938712
 3:01 pm on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

unless Nick goes for pure CSS structured pages though we will have to see.

That's the plan ;)

No presentation whatsoever (including layout) in the example document that will be introduced in the next part of the course...

Thanks for the plug :)

Nick

knighty




msg:938713
 8:30 am on Dec 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

The best place for layer manipulation is www.projectseven.com as they have a load of VERY useful extensions that I could'nt live without.

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