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looking for open source wisiwyg that won't change SS scripting
or that won't re-format HTML or add a DOCTYPE
benlieb




msg:933447
 8:00 am on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I asked this a year ago and came up empty. The only editor I know that does this and has a wisiwyg is Dreamweaver, but I need something OPEN SOURCE, or at least free.

Ideas? Thanks.

 

Demaestro




msg:933448
 8:52 pm on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

fckEditor

The fck does not stand for what you think it does either. I think it is the developers initials or soemthing.

Anyway it isn't perfect but it the best one I have found that is open source. I was able to make some customizations quite easly. We went through 3 others before settling on this one.

Remember that most of these editors, if not all are javascript and therefor are somewhat buggy in nature when exceptions come up. Especially cross platforms/browsers.

This will add some html tags. For example it will want to add <tbody> after your <table> if you don't add it yourself, things like that. It also does closing of sigular tags. So <br> becomes <br />. Nothing bad though.

Demaestro




msg:933449
 8:53 pm on Mar 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here is the link sorry

[fckeditor.net...]

benlieb




msg:933450
 5:37 am on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, this is a through-the-web editor, and I forgot to mention that I'm looking for a desktop app.

Anyone?

outrun




msg:933451
 6:06 am on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

NVU

benlieb




msg:933452
 8:15 am on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,
I just tried NVU and a simple test showed that when you are in "source view" and input the following:

<?php include("../includes/top.php");?>
<h1>bunch </h1>
<p>of html</p>
<?php include("../includes/bottom.php");?>

and then you go to the "normal view" for a moment, and then switch back to the "source view" you will find this:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<?php include("../includes/top.php");?>
<h1>bunch </h1>
<p>of html</p>
<?php include("../includes/bottom.php");?>
</body>
</html>

This is clearly unacceptable. Thus my message is an attempt to find a WYSIWYG editor that:


won't change SS scripting or that won't re-format HTML or add a DOCTYPE

Refer here [forum.nvudev.org] to see all the people already pissed off about this.

As of yet, Dreamweaver seems to be the only intelligent editor that assumes its users are capable of more than static HTML code and LEAVES YOUR PREVIOUS CODE ALONE.

Essentially what I'm looking for is an open source solution so that clients change work I've already done. I've been looking for years. Why is this soooo hard, when most through-the-web wysiwyg editors, don't do it?

Wlauzon




msg:933453
 4:43 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have never had FrontPage mess with my DOCTYPE.

Demaestro




msg:933454
 5:11 am on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I love netscape composer for what you are talking about.

mcvoid




msg:933455
 11:47 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Firefox all the way. Get the Web Developer extension. Edit the HTML and CSS in one sidebar, and the changes show up in the viewport as soon as you type it. It has been a life saver when I was designing my CSS.

benlieb




msg:933456
 3:44 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hey folks, thanks for the input.

I'm afraid some of you don't really understand the question. "SS scripting" in the question refers to server side scripting. None of the WYSIWYG editors mentioned here or that exist anywhere (except dreamweaver) leave your formatting in tact. They ad DOCTYPE and meta tags and strip your SS scripting, that would include that info via head and footer scripts.

If any of you have truly found one (that is not through the web) PPPLLLEEEAASE let me know

Steerpike




msg:933457
 7:28 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you really find it that irritating, why not invest in dreamweaver? It obviously upsets you and has been for over a year...presumably the cost of Dreamweaver is worth the peace of mind?

Failing that leave the wysiwyg's alone and just use Textpad?

chadha




msg:933458
 11:09 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree with the post of Steerpike that you should go for DreamWeaver. Latest version is DW-8 and the previous was DW-MX (DW being Dreaweaver)

However, I will also agree that there are still some developers who like to work in text editors like textpad.

If you search for WYSIWYG HTML Editors on google then you may get some other alternatives as well.

Good Luck,

Ajay Chadha (Director)

<snip>

[edited by: trillianjedi at 12:54 pm (utc) on May 8, 2006]
[edit reason] Please see TOS. Thanks. [/edit]

benlieb




msg:933459
 7:46 pm on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the input again, and sorry for sounding irritated.

I actually code by hand, so don't need a wysiwyg. I use editors like VIM (linux) or UEStudio that are pretty good at very advanced editing features like macros, indentations, word-completion, code folding, etc. I also own dreamweaver by the way.

So I'm not looking for a wysiwyg for me. I'm looking for a free option for my clients. I would hate to use up their web site budget with purchases like dreamweaver. I'd rather them spend their budget on ME :)

And I've been searching for 3 years, not one. So that might explain the earnestness in my tone. I have found some through-the-web editors that are tolerable, but am holding out for a desktop app.

What frustrates me with computers, as everyone knows, is that some of the easiest things end up being the hardest for no good reason. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Mokita




msg:933460
 9:24 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

Have you tried HTML Kit?
[chami.com...]

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