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how to put Hebrew on my site?
hebrew reads from right to left but dreamweaver puts it back to front!
tomthumb2000




msg:934119
 4:57 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm translating part of my site into hebrew. But each time i copy and paste the hebrew translation, dreamweaver puts the words back to front "ekil siht"

It's because hebrew reads in the opposite direction to english. I tried using notepad instead but it didn't recongise the characters.

Anyone know what to do?

 

jomaxx




msg:934120
 5:14 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

I know nil about Dreamweaver, but if you're really stuck there is a CSS style that displays a region in mirror image:

filter:fliph

encyclo




msg:934121
 5:19 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

You need to specify the text direction either for the page itself or for the container element for the Hebrew text. If it is the whole document, you can specify it on the
html element:

<html [b]dir="rtl"[/b]>

Where "rtl" is right-to-left and "ltr" is left-to-right (the default).

jomaxx




msg:934122
 10:31 pm on Feb 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's a great suggestion encyclo, but I tried it on an English-language page and it merely right-adjusted everything (Mozilla and MSIE). The text still read left-to-right.

Also I tried my own suggestion and it doesn't work either. That CSS filter does work on images but perhaps not on text.

Demaestro




msg:934123
 12:01 am on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

snippet from a macromedia developer posting:

[macromedia.com...]

More issues... requests for Right-To-Left (RTL) language support among the localized tools have increased over the past few months. Most languages are written left-to-right... Japanese also offers vertical writing... Hebrew, Arabic and a few others are written right-to-left. Unicode support gets us partway there, because we can specify the characters and direction. There also needs to be system-level support for RTL typing, .....

We haven't solved all these problems yet—the Hebrew version of FreeHand pays for itself, but seeing more sales in RTL countries could help pay for this engineering.

END SNIPPET

I also found this tool:
Ksharim XI, a Hebrew file-conversion program
[panergy.co.il...]

Hope this helps

(Moderator sorry if this link shouldn't be posted if you remove please sticky the original poster.)

tomthumb2000




msg:934124
 9:48 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

I love you guys.

I'll download the free version of Freehand and see how it works out.

Demaestro




msg:934125
 10:16 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Let us know how it goes, I am curious.

I love forums too and this one really has some of the best posters staff and moderators.

tomthumb2000




msg:934126
 7:33 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Actually it seems that a <span dir=rtl> does work, at least now that i'm using an israeli friend's computer.
What I'm not clear about though is the code (unicode?) that i see in the coding for the hebrew letters. Other hebrew sites that i've seen have real hebrew letters when i check out their source code.
It works fine now for users but i'm unsure if search engines read this code for hebrew search queries. Anyone know about this?

Demaestro




msg:934127
 9:36 pm on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

You might want to try using ascii or hex for your charcters. A little time consuming but here are the hex and ascii values for hebrew.

[nirdagan.com...]

tomthumb2000




msg:934128
 1:56 pm on Mar 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for that, demaestro.

I guess i don;t understand what these codes are. Does google read them as hebrew so it can identify search queries?

And if one is better than the other, why?

And how come other sites in Hebrew show hebrew letters in their source code and not these other language codes?

khell




msg:934129
 11:04 am on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yet Demaestro's suggestion works I wouldn't recommend it.
If you want to write hebrew in your html source code first of all you should have an editor which supports utf8 then write the hebrew using hebrew text and do not forget to set

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

Even if many editors display the rtl text from left to right the browsers will do it right. I think this is to keep it less ambigous to coders since the tags are ltr...

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