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Expression Web Designer
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Wlauzon

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Msg#: 1372 posted 1:51 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

... google finds things...

[microsoft.com...]

Some of the demo's and links don't work, wonder if that was prematurely posted?

 

encyclo

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Msg#: 1372 posted 2:23 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

A semi-related recent article about Microsoft Expression:

[crn.com...]
The tools, formally named this week, are aimed at interactive Web site designers and graphics designers developing WinFX-based applications on Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft said. (...) The third member of the Expression family, Expression Web Designer, is aimed at Web designers and is still in beta testing.

This product is potentially huge - the Expression programs are Microsoft's attempt to bring in the designer crowd (publishing as well as web) off the Mac platform. The Web Designer component is in beta and is supposed to produce standards-based XHTML by default, but the move to open standards on the client side is not followed for the backend, where Microsoft's XAML, which is a proprietary XML-based format for use in the upcoming Windows Vista OS.

Wlauzon

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Msg#: 1372 posted 2:27 am on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

From one of the links that actually worked:

"Create CSS-based, XHTML 1.0 Transitional–conformant Web sites by default, and work better across browsers, simplifying deployment and maintenance. Configure flexible schema settings to support all combinations of HTML/XHTML/Strict/Transitional/Frameset and CSS 1.0/2.0/2.1 in addition to browser-specific schemas. Validate your site with Compatibility reporting and use the Accessibility report to verify your site against Section 508 and W3C Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG).."

But aside from that, the other two products look pretty interesting also. Apparently this is going to be like the "Microsoft Office of the Web"?

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 1372 posted 2:13 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Expressions Web Designer is the replacement for FrontPage. FrontPage will still be supported but if you are utilizing MS' latest technology, you'll definitely want to jump on board and use the tools that are designed to work seamlessly in the up and coming Vista (also known as Longhorn).

limbo

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Msg#: 1372 posted 2:32 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I don't like the sound of this...

Junanagoh

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Msg#: 1372 posted 4:48 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

"I don't like the sound of this... "

Adobe lover? :)

I think it looks great and I wont mind trying it out when it comes out.

whoisgregg

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Msg#: 1372 posted 6:37 pm on Feb 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

the Expression programs are Microsoft's attempt to bring in the designer crowd (publishing as well as web) off the Mac platform

Well, if that's the case then they should fix the demo so it works in Safari or Firefox.

Wlauzon

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Msg#: 1372 posted 6:28 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Microsoft is also using the SharePoint brand for a new Web site-development program. Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007, like Microsoft's Expression Web Designer software is based in part on its current FrontPage web-authoring tool, though that program is being phased out. Microsoft said it will sell the SharePoint Web design program for $299, while pricing and availability for Expression will be announced "in the near future."

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 1372 posted 1:27 am on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Here's a Q&A from Microsoft on both the Sharepoint Designer and Expression Web Designer products.

Q&A: Microsoft Unveils Next Generation of Web Authoring and Design Tools [microsoft.com]

Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 and Microsoft Expression Web Designer feature deep support for open Web standards as well as extensive customization features.

stever

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Msg#: 1372 posted 7:52 am on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Surprised that they have stuck to their asp.net only stance, though - especially in a "professional web designer package". Certainly not looking to attract the "unsettled" ex-Macromedia users, then ;)

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 1372 posted 8:34 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Two new products based on FrontPage technologies to address the needs of specific customers and markets.

Microsoft Office SharePoint Designer 2007 which will focus on building applications and automating business processes on top of the SharePoint platform, and customizing SharePoint sites (for both Windows SharePoint Server and Office SharePoint Server).

Microsoft Expression Web Designer which will focus on building standards-based Web sites and providing the best tools for professional web designers building dynamic sites with ASP.NET.

Just want to clarify that FrontPage will be phased out of the lineup. For many of us, Expression Web Designer is the next step. For some, Sharepoint Designer is the next step. Which platform are you going to work from?

netchicken1

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Msg#: 1372 posted 9:47 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

What a joke!

The demos of Microsofts latest package that is meant to create standards based websites, don't show the images, or load correctly in Firefox....

What hope is there?

netchicken1

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Msg#: 1372 posted 10:22 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well I downloaded MS Expression, it actually looked quite good.

However on trying to install it it demands Windows Presentation foundation [microsoft.com...]

which unfortunatly I can't find a download for.

Anyone else had any success?

jk3210

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Msg#: 1372 posted 9:57 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

<<For many of us, Expression Web Designer is the next step...>>

The UI appeared much like FrontPage in the video, but I'm wondering if it has a big increase in functionality* over FP, other than the CSS stuff that was touted.

* = Better database connectivity, etc.

Jon_King

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Msg#: 1372 posted 1:40 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Seems a waste to abandon the FrontPage brand. I wonder why that decision was made.

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