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Problems Uploading Pages to Host Server
palmpal




msg:935329
 2:02 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I am currently trying to "publish" my website to my new host. Unfortunately there are problems related to publishing any updates. I have renamed all my file names to lower case and changed all the related links. I saved my changes in Frontpage and republished the website. I also tried deleting all the files from the server and republished "all." Some of my files still insist on transferring with a capitalized first letter even though they are lower case on my computer. I'm not sure the people at the web hosting company believe me! Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong and why my files transfer this way?

Thanks,

Mona

 

mack




msg:935330
 2:28 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Are you trying to publish your files using microsoft frontpage page publisher...If so does your host have the frontpage extensions installed and working...and the correct version?

palmpal




msg:935331
 4:06 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I created the pages using FrontPage 2002, my Host has Frontpage 2000 Extension installed.

Even though I created the pages in FrontPage I forced myself to learn what the coding was all about and I ended up taking out much of what FP installed on it's own. I've validated the pages so I'm not sure if it's still an issue having the Extensions from 2000.

I ended up logging into the server and manually changed the files to lower case. Now everything is working. My concern is whether Frontpage is really updating pages when it says it is and/or if the server is accepting the updated pages.

On the Side: Can I convert my site to Dreamweaver without much effort? I have the program but never installed it. It became more an issue of not having the time to redo the site with another program and learning a new program. I'm wondering . . .

Thanks, Mona

mack




msg:935332
 5:29 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Even when I use frontpage to build I still tend to prefere using an ftp proram to upload my files. THis will work ok so long as you are not relying on some certain features that frontpage uses. For example if you use frontpage extensions for form feed back etc you really need to uplad using the frontpage publishing tool. Standard pages that do not make use of extensions can be uploaded using a standard ftp client. I am not sure if there is a great difference between the extensions version used in fp 2000 and 2002 if there is , then this could also cause you some problems.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:935333
 12:12 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

MS states that you shouldnt use FTP when publishing with Frontpage....I think it has something to do with FP liking to put all your code in its basket so it knows what is going back and forward ;)

Palmpal....you can copy your site through your browser (works with IE anyway). Just go to File > Open and check the "open as web folder" icon. You can get your remote site by doing that...and if you want to upload...its a case of copying and pasting as you normally would between folders on your own PC

On the Side: Can I convert my site to Dreamweaver without much effort? I have the program but never installed it. It became more an issue of not having the time to redo the site with another program and learning a new program. I'm wondering . . .

Might slow you down a bit, but then again...personally I've found DW to be more useful for certain things like edit/replace and the introduction of regular expressions to do this. Each editor takes a bit of getting used to before you get down to your own work

mack




msg:935334
 5:16 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yep I know about MSFP saying not to use FTP. Thats why o do it :)

I only use FP for static pages then clean up the mess and upload it using laplink. I think they say dont use FTP because FP publisher keeps track of what needs updating and what woudl wast bandwidth by changing. Right now it has got to the stage where I just alter a page and upload that page.

copongcopong




msg:935335
 12:54 pm on Sep 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mona,

this happened to me too ... i used a web based ftp program to upload my files (zip then decompress automatically on the server) and some files and folder where in all caps ... the host server is linux based ...

any coincidence?!? hmmmm ...

palmpal




msg:935336
 1:42 pm on Sep 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

I thought I would share my solution to the above problem.

If saving the pages for the first time in FP:

Save the document lowercase - FP will then save is as an htm file. Do a "save as" html and then go back and delete the htm file.

If you did what I did and mistakenly saved your pages as having uppercase letters:

For my website I had tried to rename the files lower case once on my host server. The only problem is that any updates I made to my pages copied over to the server in the upper case version. I could have just renamed the revised upper case version lowercase each time I republished but wanted something simpler.

I needed to go to the file manager on the host server, delete both the lower case and upper case versions of my file. Then I had to go into FP and create a new page, delete the html code that FP puts in, open my original html file (the one that copies over to the server only in upper case) and do a copy and paste to get the code into the new page. Then I had to close out the original file, delete it from my computer and save the new file with the orignal name - only lower case this time. It saves it as a lower case htm. While the file is still open do a "save as" with the html extension and then go back later and delete the htm version. Publish the changes via FP. It will prompt that there is a conflict - just say OK to replacing it. I'm not sure why it says there is a conflict since I had already deleted the files off the server. Nonetheless, the lower case version is saved to the server again - with any revisions made! All the subsequent "publishes" to my host server have gone through without a hitch!

Have a good one,

Mona

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