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Text based Editor
Looking for a fat-free php, css, xhtml editor
copongcopong




msg:939282
 2:47 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Since i prefer hand coding (by heart :)) i would like to know what text based editors that you use and which one do u recommend?

When I read some post here, most members post some text based editors (not WYSIWYG) and i think we may need to do some editor challenge here. ;)

Here are some criteria that i would like to look into text based editor:

a) Free (as much as possible)
b) Run fast and not a memory hogger
c) Runs on Windows (peace for mac, 'nixers there, need to test it in ie and i don't have a mac ;))
d) and lastly, must not be NotePad, must be an Alternative to Notepad though!

that's it.

peace. :)

 

NeedScripts




msg:939283
 4:30 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Have you tried *UltraEdit*?

I use and love it :) It has got all what you want and *more* :)

brotherhood of LAN




msg:939284
 4:51 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've began using notetab pro......very classy...create your own "clips" of code and templates and watch everything else fall into place ;)

Thinking about making a clip for this forums code too :) No bloat, no mess, just your own templates.

jatar_k




msg:939285
 4:54 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Textpad, tons of libs, syntax highlighting for most langs, tons of little add ons etc.

not free though, 20 bucks, but more than worth it imo.

chiyo




msg:939286
 5:10 pm on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Notetab Pro. since i installed 3 years ago, it is my daily program for just about anything. Aaving text context, web design, css, php. It has crashed once in 3 years. It has replaced Word for about 90% of what i used to use the former for. The reason - its just simply much faster and more customizable. Just a great workhorse that loads up in a second. Like BOL saving snippets is great and the clipboard feature offers all the advanced stuff you need. That said i know at least one high profile member here who does not seem impressed!

c3oc3o




msg:939287
 1:15 am on Sep 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use version beta 1.0 of CuteHTML.
It came with some old version of CuteFTP. I hear current versions aren't free anymore, but I don't care, I've gotten so used to my version anyway.
It's like Notepad in startup time (none) and memory use, has row numbers, MDI, better search/replace and better carat behavior - that's about all the features (that I use/have activated, at least), but I just can't stand working on anything else for some reason. As soon as an editor has a sidebar or more than one toolbar, it feels so.. bloated! :)

copongcopong




msg:939288
 12:34 pm on Sep 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all ur feedback, i really appreciate it.

... now let me try to download them and do my taste test. ;)

nickr




msg:939289
 2:34 am on Oct 2, 2002 (gmt 0)
try HTML-Kit, its free. You can use all kinds of tools to help you write the code but it seems best just for writing code by hand and checking it in preview windows. For pcs. I learned HTML and CSS on it.. I really recommend it.
shelleycat




msg:939290
 2:39 am on Oct 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use and adore Text Pad. My professional programming friends do too. While it's technically "not free" you can use it as long as you want until you do pay for it. So you can give it a good workout to see if you like it. And even then it's not very expensive.

mikeputnam




msg:939291
 3:23 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

I like Evrsoft's 1stpage. Plus it's free!
[evrsoft.com...]

Requirements
============
1st Page 2000 System/Software Requirements

To Use Evrsoft 1st Page 2000, You Need

Microsoft Internet Explorer v3.02 or higher
Netscape Gecko Rendering Engine (optional)
PC with Pentium 75 MHz or higher processor
Microsoft Windows® 95 or later operating system, Microsoft Windows NT® Workstation operating system version 4.0 or later with Service Pack 3 or later, or Microsoft Windows NT® Server operating system version 4.0 or later with Service Pack 3 or later. Windows 2000, Windows Me and Windows XP are now supported.
For Windows 95 or Windows 98:
32 MB of RAM for the operating system, plus an additional 8 MB of RAM for 1st Page 2000.
For Windows NT/2000 or XP:
256 MB of RAM for the operating system, plus an additional 8 MB of RAM for 1st Page 2000.
15 MB of available hard-disk space (Number indicates typical installation; your hard-disk usage will vary depending on configuration. Choices made during custom installation may require more or less hard-disk space.)
VGA or higher-resolution monitor; Super VGA recommended
Microsoft compatible Mouse, IntelliMouse® supported

txbakers




msg:939292
 5:23 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Textpad - the best $27 I EVER spent on any software product.

Marcia




msg:939293
 11:10 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

FirstPage2000 is excellent, but it's an awful memory hog. I loved it, but it took forever to load and I've *got* to have Photoshop open at the same time - plus some other critical applications, and it just didn't work for me memory and time wise.

HTML-Kit is now coming out with a paid version I believe - I could be wrong. But it's super great for stripping out font tags, that's what I used when converting a couple of sites to validate for HTML4 and replaced font tags with CSS. There are loads of plug-ins, including HTML validation, so how fat it is depends on preferences.

The documentation could be a lot better, it's kind of cryptic, which is a big shortcoming. Other than that it's amazingly functional and not slow at all, even with Windows98. I do quick and dirty sites in DW and always have to do a little fixing.

cyclic




msg:939294
 6:51 pm on Oct 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

I found HTML-Kit to be a great free resource. The newsgroups are excellent and you will generally get a response very quickly. It can be configured with Apache and also has its own ftp agent.

cline




msg:939295
 9:49 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've been using HTML-Kit for over a year. If you know some basics of handcoding, it's pretty intuitive.

amoore




msg:939296
 10:56 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

you might give visual slick edit a try.

copongcopong




msg:939297
 10:24 pm on Oct 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

I tried HTML-Kit and find it cool. Just don't put to much redundant plugins there. :) thanks everyone for your reply here. hopefully some hand coders would really need a fat-free and Fress editors out there.

peace.

andreasfriedrich




msg:939298
 10:55 pm on Oct 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Amazingly nobody mentioned XEmacs. Are 15 MB RAM usage too much (about 50 open files (482 KB), a customized cursor and a nice background picture of /[acenort]/i ;)) to pass as not a memory hogger?

Andreas

dingman




msg:939299
 3:50 pm on Oct 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

I thought about mentioning Emacs, then decided that anything I don't install on my laptop because it's too big proabably isn't light-weight.

Of course, my laptop is an 80486 with 8mb of RAM, and little enough hard drive space that I have to NFS-mount a scratch partition from another machine just to unpack .debs if I want to install or upgrade the system. It doen't even meet the minumum system requirements for the Debian installer anymore. :( It's also too old to get new bateries for, and the orriginals are completely dead, so I should probably think about replacing it... ... will code for new laptop? ;)

'the' or 'jed' are good substitutes in situations like that.

sun818




msg:939300
 7:50 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I thought I throw EditPlus into the mix.

I use it for:

  • line numbers,
  • syntax highlighting,
  • recordable macros.
  • victor




    msg:939301
     8:19 am on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

    For a blinding fast editor, try emeditor:

    [emurasoft.com...]

    The blurb don't lie when it says

    a text editor should run fast, open files fast, be capable of editing files of any size, be customizable and offer essential features [needed] on a day-to-day basis. Many text editors sacrifice speed and lightness for an ever-increasing number of features that most of us may never need. Our priority is the optimization of EmEditor

    troels nybo nielsen




    msg:939302
     7:37 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

    With so many danes around it's surprising that no one has bothered to mention Stone's Webwriter and Stone's TextTool

    [webwriter.dk...]
    [stoneware.dk...]

    They are small and fast and good. Give them a try.

    tbear




    msg:939303
     8:09 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

    Been using Arachnophilia for ages. Will soon be testing ver.5.

    danec




    msg:939304
     7:37 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

    I second Sun818's support of EditPlus. I use EditPlus more than any other program on my hard rive. With it, I edit HTML, PHP and CSS files .. plus I can upload text and image files with it.

    Its the first program I install on a new computer ..

    David_1cog




    msg:939305
     12:37 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

    I'm amazed this thread has got so far without mention of TopStyle:

    [bradsoft.com...]

    It is the best combined (X)HTML / CSS editor by far. It's not free but worth every penny if you're serious about web design.

    Nick Bradbury is the author and he wrote the original Homesite (eventually bought out by Macromedia).

    kcartlidge




    msg:939306
     8:55 pm on Nov 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

    The best on the planet by far - ConText :).

    It's a free programmer's editor. Multiple windows, very empty workspace but loads of features.
    Full syntax highlighting for HTML, PHP, SQL, Perl, Python, Java, Javascript and more.
    Adds to the windows context (!) menu.
    Notifies if loaded files are changed by other processes.

    And so much more.
    I don't own the program I just swear by it's usability!

    10 out of 10!

    copongcopong




    msg:939307
     11:48 pm on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

    Don't want to wake up this thread but i have found another good text editor, it could even fit a floppy (installation file) and its free!

    [crimsoneditor.com...]

    it even could to connect to files via ftp.

    Jon_King




    msg:939308
     11:50 pm on Dec 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

    Notetab is my favorite.

    kcartlidge




    msg:939309
     11:02 am on Dec 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

    I must admit, for general editing work and also for basic web-site design, NoteTab Pro is superb. So much so, that I actually paid for it!

    [normally I wait for software to appear for free on magazine cover cd's]

    littleman




    msg:939310
     7:33 pm on Dec 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

    gVim is available for windows. As far as I have used it, the windows version seems just as capable as the UNIX variant. For those who do not know, gVim is a very capable editor, though there is a learning curve for some of it's more advance functions.
    [vim.org...]

    crosenblum




    msg:939311
     1:57 pm on Dec 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

    textpad the jewel in the eye of my coding style.

    The real question is what kind of interface do you like, and what kind of features do you need?

    There are a lot of programs out there.

    We all have our favorites.

    I like tools that are fast loading, and that allows you to take advantage of more features as you learn how to master that tool...

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