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Text based Editor
Looking for a fat-free php, css, xhtml editor
copongcopong




msg:939282
 2:47 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Since i prefer hand coding (by heart :)) i would like to know what text based editors that you use and which one do u recommend?

When I read some post here, most members post some text based editors (not WYSIWYG) and i think we may need to do some editor challenge here. ;)

Here are some criteria that i would like to look into text based editor:

a) Free (as much as possible)
b) Run fast and not a memory hogger
c) Runs on Windows (peace for mac, 'nixers there, need to test it in ie and i don't have a mac ;))
d) and lastly, must not be NotePad, must be an Alternative to Notepad though!

that's it.

peace. :)

 

creative craig




msg:939312
 3:30 pm on Dec 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

Is notetab good with XHTML?

Craig

bill




msg:939313
 7:31 am on Dec 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

The TopStyle editor is surprisingly good with XHTML from my experience. It also integrates nicely with validators.

Robert Charlton




msg:939314
 8:03 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>Notetab Pro. since i installed 3 years ago, it is my daily program for just about anything.<<

I'm also a big fan of NoteTab Pro... and in fact I rely on it so much that I've been reluctant to apply the latest (free) update, just because it's such an important tool as it is. The main problem I have with it, I'd say, is that it's not a great site management tool.

FirstPage2000 has presented me with enough memory issues that I won't use it anymore.

>>I've been using HTML-Kit for over a year. If you know some basics of handcoding, it's pretty intuitive.<<

I disagree. When Marcia says the HTML-Kit documentation is "kind of cryptic," that is the understatement of the century.... It's bizarre that anybody could write a program that appears to be that nice... and it's really nice... until you try to do something like click on an image file to insert it into the document, but you want that to happen without including the local path name on your disk. At that point, the hours of trying to track down appropriate documentation completely outweigh the elegance of the program. I hope they address this... it would be a great HomeSite replacement.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:939315
 8:34 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>The main problem I have with it, I'd say, is that it's not a great site management tool.

I'm the same. I try to use DW for the things that Notetab Pro lacks. 'Global' search and replace is one thing I'd do in DW, Notetab is fine for building a page.

The point and click of self-made code snippets is great :)

It's not great for PHP colour syntaxing though (AFAIK), for that I use PHPeditor.....with Notetab Pro open to save writing code myself.

//sidenote
Would be cool if someone put the forum codes for WW in a notetab pro library

chiyo




msg:939316
 9:00 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

BOL, are you using a recent version of Note Tab pro? I use global search and replace with Note Tab all the time and it does a great and very fast job and was one of my top reasons for choosing it over other alternatives.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:939317
 9:06 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Version 4.91

The problem is, when I go to File>Open I can't seem to select files from different folders.

All good with files in the same folder...just highlight and open.

chiyo




msg:939318
 9:14 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

BOL i do this in 4.9x

Menu -> SEARCH -> SEARCH DISK ->REPLACE IN FILES

the you can select all files from as many folders as you wish and mask as you like (*.php, or *.htm etc)

(make sure you choose SEARCH DISK, not FIND or REPLACE in that menu.. the latter two just operate on open files or one file.)

Robert Charlton




msg:939319
 9:19 am on Dec 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I just used the global Disk search and replace function of NoteTab Pro extensively.... It's great. Ctrl-D. After it's done the search, it gives you a check list of what files to apply Replace. I'd advise you to delete backup files in the directories you're searching before beginning the operation, or it can get kind of confusing... but otherwise I couldn't ask for much more in this operation.

It doesn't offer features like easy management of large text blocks, though (like the way DW has "library" elements, almost like server side includes).

And (as far as I've gone with NTP), adding images is a manual operation. When you get into stuff like adding pages and creating new links and changing your navigation blocks, it's not really an automated tool... it's a text editor.

And for managing all the files and folders involved in a project, HomeSite was a lot nicer. For file management, I use NoteTab Pro in conjunction with Windows Commander (now renamed Total Commander), which for me has become another indispensible program... it even has an FTP program built into it.

Chiyo... if you have advice on some of these operations, maybe we should start another thread. I haven't really gotten into the Clips much at all, and I suspect they're a big element in the program's power.

[overlapping posts here...]

Brett_Tabke




msg:939320
 12:17 pm on Dec 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

An older thread:
[webmasterworld.com...]

I can't recommend any freebies, because in the editor space, you generally get what you pay for. The biggies for win are:

-UltraEdit
Bulky, but powerful. Great for editing huge files. It's a tad slow and huge for my tastes. Many mods here use it exclusively.

-EditPlus [editplus.com]
Mine of choice. Powerful, low resource impact, super speedy, and 99% bullet proof. It would take something special to pry me away from Edit Plus.

-NoteTab [notetab.com]
There are alot of vip's in the developer community that use Notetab. When the topic of editors comes up, it always receive accolades.

-MultiEdit [multiedit.com]
Extremely powerful program - every option you could dream up. I feel the interface is a bit tough to navigate. However, that's ok with a program of this size and stature.

-Boxer [boxersoftware.com]
Certainly one of the most powerful text editors ever built.
I've used the dos version for almost a decade. There is a new v10 windows version out that just looks righteous (installing as I type). I think I just found a new default editor. David Hamel has won just about every major shareware award there is for Boxer. There are few programmers in his league.

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