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Image and content "borrowing"...
Can anything be done about it?
Sunflux




msg:929768
 5:23 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a site about widgets, providing information and photographs of said widgets. One of my biggest pet peeves is seeing my photographs, and on occasion text, used by retailers to sell those widgets, particularly on Ebay.

Up until now I have not watermarked or emblazed my logo across these photographs, because high quality photographs are a big part of my site, and I personally hate seeing something partially obscured by logos on other sites. So, I've resisted doing anything like that myself. Of course I have copyright notices and big text on the page about not reproducing/linking these images, blah blah blah, but no one determined to take those photos ever bothers to heed such warnings.

But this is really starting to bug me. What have others done in this situation? Of course I have no problem proving that said photos are my own, since I'm the only one with the full resulution originals.

I wouldn't be quite so annoyed if they credited the source or linked to the site.

 

engine




msg:929769
 9:02 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

There was a technical solution to stop image BW theft [webmasterworld.com] discussed here.

Sunflux




msg:929770
 11:21 am on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

That's assuming that they're simply linking to my copies of the images. Quite often they seem to be actually copying it.

troi21




msg:929771
 7:33 pm on Jun 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have just discovered a major competitor has copied all our metatags and slightly reworded the content on our front page and placed it on theirs. We have been in the top five for a major keyphrase for months and this competitor has tried fruitlessly to get onto page one with dodgy redirects etc. I wouldn't mind if they were not a direct competitor but this is wrong. Should I email them or I am being petty?

ronin




msg:929772
 4:10 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Practical solutions to prevent people copying material that you have published on the web:

1) Educate people not to.

Unfortunately, that's it.

I'd go with a small homepage url in one corner of the image (similar to what corbis has been doing for about the last eight years).

It's not ideal, I know, I held off from doing it for ages, but I started doing it in the end. If people are going to copy your images, they might as well be advertising your site at the same time.

Macguru




msg:929773
 4:23 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Sunflux,

I found a very good thread about it in this forum's library.

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PatrickDeese




msg:929774
 4:25 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I too resorted to putting my domain name in the bottom right corner of all the photos from one of my sites - in addition to using the digimarc digital watermaeking system.

This has resulted in the copiers cropping my photos. One person actually claimed to have purchased the right to the photos from a stock photo company, but was unable to name the company.

I have found that a "love letter" from a lawyer is effective 90% of the time - and the other 10% of the time, I've had to contact the hosting company and suggested that a DMCA complaint would be the next step.

Every hosting company pulled the entire site, not just the images/pages that infringed on copyright.

Macguru




msg:929775
 4:28 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>particularly on Ebay.

I read somewhere that eBay will not act against copyright infringements unless the copyright owner files a VERO report.

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Found it :

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BigDave




msg:929776
 6:29 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

The only thing that can be done is to be diligent in pursuing infringers.

By posting your content on the web, you are making it available to copy, and there is no way to stop it, because copying the image is how it is viewed in the first place. So you have to be responsive to illegal use. There is no way to automate it.

troi21




msg:929777
 6:52 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

We approached the company and asked them to remove the content and they did within hours

photocartoonist




msg:929778
 3:49 pm on Jun 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ah yes, the good old DMCA complaint. It truly gets action! And it is a great FIRST step.

Personally I have found the legal cease and desist orders, get ignored at best and laughed about, at worse. And once they remove the materials, there is nothing you can do. SO in my opinion MANY webmasters believe that IF they are caught they will only have to remove the content, so what's the big deal!

They need to be educated that they are taking a HUGE risk and that they may lose thier site (including the domain name) because of such practices.

There has been much information given the public about the fact that it is illegal to take content from the Internet, so I no longer believe a webmaster who feigns ignorance and cries that they just made a mistake.

And I certainly do not spend thousands in legal fees anymore to just get them to remove it (after having made monies from using my content on their site). First I shut the site down and then I determine whether the ROI is worth further legal action.

No more warnings.

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