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Copyright notice on UK website
jasonlambert




msg:922458
 1:42 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

In an effort to protect myself and my content from the growing number of content leaches that exist on the Internet, I am looking to add a very strict copyright and content usage policy to my websites.

I am not a lawyer, so I dont know exactly what must be included. I have done a fair amount of research on the Internet and I have see a lot of websites offering copyright notice "templates", but these all seem to cover US copyright. Are there any similar services for the UK?

If not, can anyone recommend a fairly in-expensive, but capable, UK solicitor that can write one for me, for less than 500? ($900 approx).

I would also like a clause in the notice that add's a "license fee" for unauthorised use, does anyone know if such a thing is legal in the UK? I am aware some people have put a similar clause in US copyright statements.

 

Rosalind




msg:922459
 2:09 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Adding "copyright whoever" and stating "all rights reserved" on each page gives you all the protection you really need. You don't even need to do that for your work to be legally under copyright. Anything more should be balanced against how many visitors you are prepared to put off.

If you want to add a page about the copyright status of your work, I'm not convinced you really need a lawyer to do it. If it makes you feel better then go ahead and hire one, but first ask whether it would enhance your legal rights or merely act as a deterrent. If it's just the latter, remember that a lot of infringement is done through automatic scraping anyway.

jasonlambert




msg:922460
 4:16 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the swift reply :)

Adding "copyright whoever" and stating "all rights reserved" on each page gives you all the protection you really need.
I do this already. Unfortunatly it is getting ignored too often, hence I would like something stronger. Much stronger.

Anything more should be balanced against how many visitors you are prepared to put off.
A valid point. I was thinking along the lines of (in addition to the usual copyright line), adding 2 extra links in the footer of my pages, "Important copyright notice", and "reprint information". That way the information is there for those who want to read it. Ok, most leachers dont want to, but I am hoping to strengthen any case where the leacher tries to uses ignorance as an excuse.

If you want to add a page about the copyright status of your work, I'm not convinced you really need a lawyer to do it.
What is a concern is putting a copyright notice up that is then invalidated by the law - maybe because I worded 1 sentance incorrectly or something like that. Of course I would prefer not to hire a lawyer and save the money if that is possible.

If it makes you feel better then go ahead and hire one, but first ask whether it would enhance your legal rights or merely act as a deterrent.
Idealy it should do both, but even if it only acts as a deterrent it is a good thing.

If it's just the latter, remember that a lot of infringement is done through automatic scraping anyway.
Hence the license fee for unauthorised reproduction. While it wont stop the leaching, it gives me a very strong last course of action against those stupid enough to do it, and I am hoping it can be used as an additional reason for someone to remove duplicated from their website when I catch them out.

pete_m




msg:922461
 4:48 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

To be honest, I very much doubt you could add anything else that would make a difference legally. But hey, IANAL.

If I were you I'd go and see a solicitor - make sure you visit a specialist in intellectual property and the Internet. It shouldn't cost you more than 200 for an hour discussing your situation. Afterwards you'll have a clear idea on where you stand legally.

georgeek




msg:922462
 5:26 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

Adding "copyright whoever" and stating "all rights reserved" on each page gives you all the protection you really need.

I do this already. Unfortunatly it is getting ignored too often, hence I would like something stronger. Much stronger.

Something stronger wont make any difference whatsoever. Spend the money on buying links for a tangible benefit.

james007




msg:922463
 5:18 pm on Nov 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree - there is nothing stronger in law than 'Copyright © 1995 Me. All rights reserved.'

If it helps, this is a copyright notice I use. Every page says 'Copyright © 1995 me' on it, which hyperlinks to a larger page saying...

Copyright 1994-2004 (me)

All rights reserved. This site, and the lists of e-mail addresses and lists of sites referred to herein are copyrighted works of (me). Reproduction in whole or in part, whether on paper, on the Internet, on CD-ROM, or any other medium, including utilisation in machines capable of reproduction or retrieval, without the express permission of (me) is prohibited.

Frankly, though, it's a little pointless - you don't need this extra stuff.

BigDave




msg:922464
 8:16 pm on Nov 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

The only likely effect of putting something much stronger on your pages is that polarity responders will take it as a challenge, and some of your regular customers will get an unfriendly feeling from your site.

On the other hand, setting up a licensing page and terms that you would offer a valuation of your work, and help people realize that you are willing to work with them if they are interested in using your content. Just because you are willing to license your content, does not mean that you have to have reasonable rates or be willing to license more than a few token pages.

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