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Marcia

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Msg#: 86 posted 12:48 am on Jan 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I found this site through the Corel [corel.com] site:

[xandros.net...]

Corel, as far as I know, is the only major company that is pioneering the effort with offering commercial software for Linux. Corel's business applications, for those of us who remember, are the ones that were business standard prior to the shift to the ones that are currently dominating. They were very viable, effective applications, and would certainly be no less so if there were a resurgence of those applications geared to what's probably the Operating System that should be adopted by a lot of companies for a lot of reasons.

There's been discussion before about development of user-friendly Linux software for commercial use and between this company and Corel, it looks like a much-needed attempt is being made in that area.

Corel apparently is taking a different direction with competing with Adobe, Macromedia et al with graphics software, and seems to be looking at an area that's remained largely untapped for commercial development and marketing of Linux based desktop applications as a viable alternative to those who already occupy a disproportionate amount of market share.

I remember when Wordstar classes were standard in training schools. Then it was WordPerfect and Lotus123. Employers had trained personnel to hire. Distribution of academic licenses to educational facilities, imho, would be critical to pulling this off, plus whatever else it would take to educate workers. If companies are to make a switch ever, they'll need to have staff that can use the software. The ease of use is what I believe helped the other grow to dominance, so any contender would have to compete on that front.

This is not intended to open the door to posting about all the independent applications that are available for download, and shouldn't be construed as such. If there's to ever be an evening out of the software industry to include alternative options for businesses in a free market, it'll take a company with the branding, industry-wide reputation and marketing clout and funding to make it happen, because they'd be the ones who could provide the support and training so that there would be enough staff available so that companies could be able to make a switch-over if they chose.

If and when that were to happen, there would then be a door of opportunity open for independent developers, because they'd be marketing to a public that had already been educated.

The little freebie scripts for Linux for download will stay what they are - little downloads. They will never have enough impact to be competition. That will take big bucks and marketing effort none of those have.

 

littleman

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Msg#: 86 posted 9:39 pm on Jan 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Coral is one of many companies looking to cash in on the marketing of open source software.
Xandros Desktop OS is an operating system that provides a complete, easy-to-use desktop environment that has been refined and enhanced to make an environment suitable for all computer users. Built on top of Debian Linux with an enhanced version of the KDE desktop, Xandros Desktop machines peacefully co-exist and inter-operate with Windows desktop and server systems.

You could go to a dozen other Linux distributions and read similar stuff.

From redhat:
We want to change the way you think about Linux and open source technologies. Red Hat Linux is no longer simply an Operating System. It is the heart and soul of hundreds of proven technology solutions. Solutions being used by people like you in organizations like yours all over the world. To bring these solutions together for you, we are partnering with the world's leading technology companies: IBM, Dell, Oracle, and dozens of others. Now, the legendary reliability, flexibility, and manageability of Red Hat Linux can be the heart and soul of your solution.

Suse:
Within a few minutes, you will be working with an easy-to-use, uniquely stable and secure operating system. Look forward to a system with an enjoyable graphical user interface that greatly facilitates your work. No matter whether you are a newcomer, an experienced home user, or a system administrator, you are sure to benefit from the new features that make life with Linux easier - for all!

Mandrake:
MandrakeSoft is proud to announce Mandrake Linux 8.1 as the newest alternative to Microsoft Windows and Macintosh operating systems.
Mandrake Linux 8.1 is a complete operating system that provides both fully configured, easy to use desktops plus advanced, fine-tuned professional tools, including powerful server solutions. As a result, Mandrake Linux 8.1 provides everything required for both business and personal needs.
MandrakeSoft would like to thank the Mandrake Linux community of users and developers for their active contributions.

IBM:
Linux is a revolutionary Open Source platform that is stable, secure, scalable and powerful; offering today's businesses the flexibility to innovate for success. IBM is proud to work within this community, to nurture Linux and help it thrive. If you don't find what you need here, please contact us using the link at the end of this page.

And it goes on and on...

These companies are all profiting from the free labor of thousands of volunteers. There is nothing wrong with that, people make a living selling water too.

The little freebie scripts for Linux for download will stay what they are - little downloads. They will never have enough impact to be competition. That will take big bucks and marketing effort none of those have.

I have to take issue with that statement. There is some world class software being developed by volunteers in the *nix world. Some are little, and some are huge projects. Many of the applications are better than there windows counterparts. Also, a lot of the open source software is better than the commercial counterparts - from Apache to GIMP

Would you call your server software a little freebee script? Or, MySQL? Or BIND?

We have 5 kick @ss browsers. The best browser I have ever used is Galeon. In my opinion 3 of the 5 are better than MSIE.

Also, open source development is happening at a very fast pace -- probably faster than anyone imagined two years ago. Bit by bit, it is all coming together.

They are not little freebie scripts.

An interesting read:
[theregister.co.uk...]

Or you could read about how Amazon saved $54 million from using open sourse software.
[theregister.co.uk...]

john316

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Msg#: 86 posted 1:58 am on Jan 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

The Linux movement is really impeded by its own form of geek speak, therefore limiting its market to ..ahhh ..well..geeks.

As friendly as this sounds : "Built on top of Debian Linux with an enhanced version of the KDE desktop" ', it is total "greek" to the average PC consumer.

It should just say:

"Load this on your computer and AOL will run faster!"

Better yet, distribute it with the AOL CDs and watch it go like wildfire.

Most folks don't have OS awareness anyway, they just want to run the apps that they use.

edit>Sorry post went OT, I glossed the the original, that was clearly relating to commercial apps.

I'm just venting a pet peeve about the way Linux is marketed (very poorly, in my opinion), a good copywriter could probably do more good for Linux than any "killer apps" could.

David

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Msg#: 86 posted 6:45 am on Jan 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>I remember when Wordstar classes were standard in training schools. Then it was WordPerfect and Lotus123. Employers had trained personnel to hire. Distribution of academic licenses to educational facilities, imho, would be critical to pulling this off, plus whatever else it would take to educate workers. If companies are to make a switch ever, they'll need to have staff that can use the software. The ease of use is what I believe helped the other grow to dominance, so any contender would have to compete on that front.>>

I do to and I was trying to remember how long ago that was. All I can remember is that I was away from the computer in the mid 90's and in that three year time period everything changed. I would talk about Lotus and people would look at me like I was from mars. One thing we should know, better then most is that this world we live in is changing fast.

>> If there's to ever be an evening out of the software industry to include alternative options for businesses in a free market, it'll take a company with the branding, industry-wide reputation and marketing clout and funding to make it happen<<

I don't think it will be "A" company. I think this topic is being had in big money boardrooms across the country. I was visiting the HP site today (looking for a driver) and ran across this one page of several devoted to open source.

[hp.com ]

There is plenty of money out there and the interest/awareness is growing. The question I keep asking myself is...

Which stocks are the ones to buy?

littleman

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Msg#: 86 posted 7:26 am on Jan 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

john316...
>geek speak
From MS:
Windows XP is the next version of Microsoft Windows beyond Windows 2000 and Windows Millennium. Windows XP brings the convergence of Windows operating systems by integrating the strengths of Windows 2000--standards-based security, manageability and reliability with the best features of Windows 98 and Windows Me

What's the difference? It's that the average PC user has been bombarded into the branding. So the geek speak from MS is less foreign than the Linux geek speak.

Neither this quote from MS or the quote you refer to above are 'geek speak' really, its marketing talk.

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