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Lindows preinstalled notebook
$799, 933via, 256mb, 20GB
littleman




msg:909547
 10:32 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

their ad is here [info.lindows.com]

Lindows its the first to market with a pre-installed Linux notebook, that says a lot about other PC makers, and a lot about established Linux companies.

There is no denying that Lindows has done a lot to push the market exposure envelope for Linux. Yet there are so many in the open source community that are ticked off at Lindows. I find the contrast really interesting. It sort of reminds me of the saying, "He's an SOB, but he's our SOB"

IBM could have done this five years ago....

 

Nick_W




msg:909548
 10:38 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

Heh, Lindows are to Linux what BonJovi were to hard rock - A bit lame ;)

But, there pushing the Linux message forward and all power to them.

Weird, the Linux crowd have a definate 'hirachy of cool'

  • Debain/Suse - Super Geeks
  • Redhat - Serious Geeks
  • Mandrake - Potential Geeks
  • Lindows - Oh dear...

hehe,

Nick

lazerzubb




msg:909549
 10:54 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

Would be a really good price if it didn't run a VIA processor.

littleman




msg:909550
 10:59 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

Those via chips are suppose to be on the weaker side, but they are also suppose to be very efficient and cool running. That may not be such a bad thing on a mini notebook.

digitalghost




msg:909551
 11:06 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

The bad thing is that Lindows is pre-installed but there is a solution:

rm -rf / Install Debian, Redhat or Mandrake.

I still think Lindows is a bad idea, people will associate Lindows with a real Linux distro...

seindal




msg:909552
 11:22 pm on Feb 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

If Apple can make a Unix based desktop system, where you don't run as root all the time, why can Lindows? Running as root all the time is a recipe for disaster. That, I believe, is why Linux aren't that thrilled about it.

René

littleman




msg:909553
 2:34 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I guess that is sort of what I am getting at, they do so much wrong, yet at the same time they have pushed consumer based Linux systems farther than any single company.

They are the first to:
Sell bargain pre-installed PCs with Walmart
Get a deal with AOL
And now these notebooks

They are also masters of the media, whenever the main stream media refers to open sourse there's Michael Robertson blabbing about how great Lindows is. Someone who had no idea what Linux was would equate Lindows with Linux.

It is clear to me that Lindows knows marketing, even if they don't know how to get along with the open source community and use poor technical judgment. There is nothing amazing about LindowsOS, but Lindows Inc. can make diamonds out of coal.

I really wish it was someone else who had the fortitude to make the first leaps, like RH, or IBM, but it is Lindows who is trail blazing despite other companies being in a better position to do the same.

dingman




msg:909554
 7:47 am on Feb 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I really wish it was someone else who had the fortitude to make the first leaps, like RH, or IBM

I think that part of the problem here is that, understandably enough, neither Red Hat, nor IBM, nor any of the other major distro or systems players want to be associated with the very-low-end machines. These are the systems that the hardware vendors paint in their marketing copy the same way we characterize the teenager with a copy of Front Page. IBM still sells extremely expensive high-end machines that they wouldn't want associated with the Wal*Mart bargain-basement p.o.s. PC, and RH, Suse, etc all want to sell big corporate support contracts - which would be harder if the PHB knows their brand as something he can get on a crummy machine from a discount store.

Knowles




msg:909555
 7:51 pm on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

maybe this would will cause a push for others to do so. Also for those who this made think about purchasing one a quick search on prices you can get a very simular system with no OS for around 684.99 which is a little over 100 bucks less.

andreasfriedrich




msg:909556
 8:21 pm on Feb 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Heh, Lindows are to Linux [kernel.org] what BonJovi were to hard rock - A bit lame ;)

Hehe, you are one funny chap Nick ;).

>>Debain/Suse - Super Geeks

I hadn´t realized that ;)

Andreas

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