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 8:47 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Scanning through this forum on tips for ftp programs I ended with this thread from 2000
A not-so-bad ftp for linux [webmasterworld.com]

I'm not overly impressed by gftp. Coming from using windows commander, which is one of the best programmes I ever used under windows, I find gftp rather clumsy, totally slowing down the workflow.
Windows commander (sorry, it's not freeware, but nevertheless a brillant all-purpose tool) has absolutely the best handle on ftp, can be operated by mouse as well as from the keyboard with ease, is multithreaded, has a very good renaming tool etc.

I find it hard to believe the linux world should have nothing adequate.
So what do you use?



 9:36 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've found it faster than any mac ftp clients, I use it for logs and site backups, very fast.
I'm using version 2.0.11, I think there were some bugs in previous versions.

I'm a newbie to linux so until I feel more comfortable, I won't be using it for serious production. I'd like to figure out how to configure the editor..the path to programs on linux still has me a bit confused.


 9:44 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am using IglooFTP

Not totally free - but its the only one that I felt comfortable with.

It does what it says on the tin.


 11:17 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

What about Midnight Commander, it has the same heritage as Windows Commander - the great Norton Commander.

It's only console based, but I've heard there's a Gnome MC.

It supports almost anything you can imagine ;-)


 11:20 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am using 2.0.13 these days, though it's looks are about the same as they were 2 years ago, it is a lot less buggy than it once was. Though it is not a true multi threader like leechftp I would call it a good app at this point but not as good as the best of what is available for windows.


 11:40 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

MC is a good tool, no doubt. Use it a lot and slowly start exploring all the functionalities.
But the FTP handling is not half as cool as with WC...

>gftp I'm running 2.0.8, didn't experience any bugs so far.


 11:57 pm on Aug 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

What do you mean by FTP handling?

I use Bulletproof FTP on Windows, I haven't seen any like this - neither on Win, nor Unix.


 12:55 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Check out the changlog for gFTP
Some other clients..
[ludat.lth.se...] -- looks interesting
[ftpcube.sourceforge.net...] -- I am going to have to try this one.
[ordiluc.net...] -- very basic
[j-ftp.sourceforge.net...] -- java based
[kbear.sourceforge.net...] - KDE based
[tkftp.firebird.cx...] -- tk based
[info.xdev.org...] -- looks very basic

It would be nice if MC could transfer over scp, I hardly use FTP any more.


 12:58 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Pretty good list littleman,

can you provide a brief one-two sentence description of them all?


 5:44 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hehe, no. I have not tried them all. Wxftp is a wuftp clone, I haven't tried deadftp in a while, but last time I tried it it seemed to lack a lot of features. Guiftp was the same way.

I want to try ftpcube, and BKFTP, they both look promising -- especially ftpcube.


 5:57 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks littleman. Have been a little underwhelmed by gftp myself, time to try some others.


 8:06 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Great, Littleman, going to try some, thanks.


 9:08 am on Aug 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the tip on ftpcube, littleman, works great. Those used to LeechFTP will feel right at home with this one.


 4:01 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

<< It would be nice if MC could transfer over scp, I hardly use FTP any more. >>

Are you using a gui for scp or sftp?


 8:49 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm using a gui for scp, secpanel [pingx.net]. It works, but it has a lot of requirements, it requires tcl on both the server and client, and the client needs wish installed as well.


 9:41 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Martin mentions a gui version of midnight commander a few posts above here. He's right that it exists, but I doubt it's what Norton Commander fans here want. I can't say I use either mc or gmc very often, but gmc looks so different from the console mc that I would never have guessed they shared any heritage at all. They in fact go so far as to share about 4mb compiled code.

Ftp with gmc, as I try it now, adds a fake "#server-name" folder to the root of the file tree it displays in the left pane, and then allows you to navigate that folder as if it were a local folder. Not bad. Presumably that means it allows for uploads and downloads by drag-and-drop on a Gnome desktop. (gmc == Gnome Midnight Commander)

Nautilus, the newer file manager intended to replace gmc in the Gnome desktop, does about the same thing, except that it doesn't seem to add anything to the filesystem tree. Personally, I find that a little disapplointing, as I don't see any point in a graphical file manager if it doesn't give me a tree view, but that's clearly personal taste.

Presumably both of these use the Gnome VFS to accomplish such support, and therefore will support sftp as soon as the Gnome VFS does. I doubt SCP support will ever come in such a client, simply because there is no way (that I know of) to get a directory listing with scp.

<added>By "such a client" I mean a Gnome VFS based client.</added>


 12:13 am on Sep 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks Little !
Secpanel is perfect for what I need. Typing the file names was becoming a pain.

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