outrun
msg:224155 | 7:47 am on Jun 5, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Hey allanP73,
This has been discussed before, [webmasterworld.com ] regards,
Mark
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heini
msg:224156 | 12:50 pm on Jun 5, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Basically ATW has all the known ranking criteria in their algo.
Strangely I always fare well in ATW with the exact same optimization I do for Google. (Strange only because several members claim the opposite). You need to do:
- good onpage optimization, that is: title, desc, headers, etc.
- good internal linking, relevant anchor texts
- good inbound links, with relevant anchortexts Tip: look at the clusters, see where the results are coming from, see how they are grouped. TipII: Don't believe the hype of keyword stuffed domains. Keywords in domains help in exact same way as in Google: they make having keywords in anchor text easier, that's all.
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edit_g
msg:224157 | 12:51 pm on Jun 5, 2003 (gmt 0) |
| Strangely I always fare well in ATW with the exact same optimization I do for Google. |
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Same here - I've never tried to optimise for them but by optimising for google I get surprised when I (not often) check the SERPS over at ATW and find good rankings on the same keywords and phrases.
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heini
msg:224158 | 4:23 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0) |
BTW: ATW does CTR measurements on many serps, probably not a bad idea to just click your url from time to time :)
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edit_g
msg:224159 | 4:25 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Surely that's unethical. If I go down that road then the next step is clicking on my competitors' Overture listings once a day when I check the bids! ;) [edit]ahem... who said that?![/edit]
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Brad
msg:224160 | 9:24 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>>with the exact same optimization I do for Google. Same here. Over time ATW will find the sites linking back to you and you will start to rise. It pays to be patient.
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deanril
msg:224161 | 5:32 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I was ranking good in All the Web/Fast now not so good, all of a sudden like with in 2 weeks, their algo has changed for sure... I was like #6 for a big keyword, #10 on google, now Im #8 on google and #18 on All the web. All may keywords suck, #1's on Inkomi and google are #8-#15 on All the web...... I cant figure it out..... I have the most backlinks in All the web aswell......
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deanril
msg:224162 | 5:36 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
If you got HotBot, and look at Fast, you get dates, Im competing with sites that have dates like October 8, 2002 What the hell.....
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mil2k
msg:224163 | 11:00 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
| their algo has changed for sure... |
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Yes i agree. Being in a unique situation I can say that they are devaluating multiple one way links from single sites. Something like a PR Cap. :)
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Rumbas
msg:224164 | 6:35 pm on Jun 9, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I'm on par with most stuff said here. IMO Fast likes on page stuff more than some of the others. That makes their serps a bit more on topic for me.
Other than that make sure you have that ODP listing and ensure that your internal link text is optimised too.
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