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Does ATW use a page rank system?

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Msg#: 829 posted 9:30 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

In a german webworker forum we are discussing rewriting URIs and how this affectes SEs.
One user pointed out that a site: search on ATW for this particular forum (a VBB installation) returned two results only:
One to the forum index page and a second to the member info page of the 'webmaster posts portal news ID' which has -by its nature- plenty of links within the website to its member page.

Those results on ATW are accessible by <snip>

My questions:

  • Does ATW use a variation of a link weight system? Are they ranking the pages within the site by the number of links?
  • Do they neclect URIs with query strings attached?

Results of an other VBB installation show quite a difference: <snip> This website uses an archive system rewriting URIs to something like foobar.htm

I think it is quite odd that the "news-ID" is shown in the result. Can we gain an insight into the ATW algo by thase resutls? The news subforum is located at the top of the forum index page and the member page is linked frequently from in there so might there be a plus for links further up in the source?

I post this in the hope that we might be able to extract some general information about the new ATW (I could not find fresh info in the resources I know). I am new to this forum and hope I am on topic.

Best regards from Berlin, Germany
Chris Prior

[edited by: Rumbas at 9:57 pm (utc) on Mar. 5, 2003]
[edit reason] No specifics please - thanks. [/edit]



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Msg#: 829 posted 10:06 pm on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Chris, welcome to WebmasterWorld :)

I belive that ATW use link valuation in their algo. How much is the real question here.

>Do they neclect URIs with query strings attached?

no, they don't neglect them all together. You'll find plenty of pages with query strings in the serps, so getting them indexed is possible. However in my experience they don't give them same "weigth" as static-looking pages.

We've had a few discussions about ATW and handling session id's and other dynamic stuff:


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Msg#: 829 posted 5:23 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

yes, FAST uses a page rank system:
called "StaticRank"

I donīt know either how much weight it has in the algo, but my assumption is that itīs similarly to the Google-PR: the weight might be high, but only StaticRank doesnīt help at all.
Sometimes I see that the given weight is almost the same as Googleīs PR, unless the page is banned, of course.

I think itīs more about inbound links than outbound (so to say linkpopularity), and also than internal links - I agree with Rumbas in this point.

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