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Fast blocks all sites from a host
12 monthts out of their index

 11:01 am on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

My sites dissappeared from Fast index for exactly 12 months ago. First I thought it was just me who is punished (had no idea why), but lately I've come to realize that the whole host is out, even the host's main page.

The beginning of the ban coincides with a certain freedom of speech issue, where the host was involved and where they took stand for one of their webmasters!

Whatever the reason for the ban is, I have reason to believe that thousands of "fair play" sites have been shot down.

The Fast webmaster relationships have been much acclaimed. In my experience they don't exist. I have written and folks from my host have written (after I wrote to them and they verified the problem). No answeres or reactions from Fast!



 11:13 am on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Zeb, if you are absolutely sure about all sites served form the host being blocked first thing to do would be changing hosts.

I have never really heard of any case where a complete host would be blacklisted. People from Fast however have stated this could indeed happen.
It's a kind of bad neighborhood thing.


 11:44 am on Feb 12, 2003 (gmt 0)


I'm extremely satisfied with the host I'm using now so I won't be leaving them. However I may try to find another host for my new sites in finnish and swedish. After all, Fast is important in Scandinavia.

if you are absolutely sure about all sites served form the host being blocked

A representative of the host verified this. So did a WebmasterWorld member using the same host, whom I sticky mailed. My 15 sites have all unique IP's and all are out.

Yes, I believe this is a case of "Bad Server Environment".


 9:25 am on Feb 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

>I have never really heard of any case where a complete host would be blacklisted.

Me neither. But i remember a interview with a fast official who said that they maintain a large list of blocked ip's ... a reasonable number ~30 Mio servers if i remember right. I gonna search that interview ... i think he didn't say black listed domains but black listed ip's (?). Is saw one guy who was zapped with more than 350 different domains, shared hosting on 2 or 3 ip's - fast couldn't have banned him without simply banning his ip's. So my guess is they do black list ip's and may be even classes - regardless of shared hostes innocent sites.

<added>Nope, found that thread [webmasterworld.com]. Stephen Baker of fast said There are no banned servers. In our experience, we have seen spam on 2/3's of all web servers, however, we do not blacklist 2/3's of all servers. It is just an interesting statistic but doesn't really have any consequences. So, sorry, my above statement is speculation.</added>


 7:38 am on Feb 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, it looks like every site I have has been tossed/dropped from FAST. No idea how long it's been cause there is never any traffic anyway. They are all on the same host. They are all clean sites, decent content, no hidden stuff.

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