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Banned by Fast!
Is it because I use ODP?

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Msg#: 543 posted 6:40 am on Jul 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

Until February I had quite nice positions for my keywords in Fast. Then suddenly my site was dropped from their index alltogether!

As far as I can see, there is nothing in this site that could be understood as spam. So I have began to wonder if it is the genre specific directory, created from ODP results, that causes the problems. The dicectory is just a tiny part of this site with almost 2000 pages. Is Fast specially hard on this kind of "non unique" content?

At the moment, being banned by Fast is not a big problem trafficwise. It's because of the obvious potential in Fast (and Yahoo rumours!), that I'd like to understand it a bit better.



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Msg#: 543 posted 3:47 pm on Jul 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi zeb, you are probably correct in thinking it was the ODP directory that triggered something. How many categories/pages do you have on your site?


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Msg#: 543 posted 8:41 am on Jul 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I kind of doubt it's just the ODP use. Fast doesn't do such a good job of filtering ODP duplicates from its index. Try the results of this search for an obscure phrase that's used as an ODP category name [alltheweb.com]. It's my standard test for this.

(Please don't type the phrase "out loud" in replies to this message. Life is easier if discussions about the phrase stay out of search results for the phrase.)

The first two dozen results are actually the pages listed in the ODP category (which probably tells us something interesting about how Fast uses hubs to categorize authorities, but that's not the topic at hand). All the results after that are copies of the ODP category (or its subcategories) at other ODP licensee sites. Clearly, Fast isn't dropping all sites that use the ODP database.

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