brotherhood of LAN
msg:220050 | 9:42 pm on Mar 26, 2002 (gmt 0) |
a month ago I had 220 links in there pointing to and from my site It whittled down to 60 odd, and now its back up to 90. FAST is pretty interesting, Ive now seen it update 4 times since Googles last singular update
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caine
msg:220051 | 9:46 pm on Mar 26, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Fast, is certainly interesting on my valued 2 kw EGO terms, every week i drill in the ranking changes. I used to be terribly concerned by this, but know i have come to expect it. A question, has anyone got a site upto the top in a competitive key term arena and stayed their for the last 6 months or so, i would certainly be interested to know.
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lazerzubb
msg:220052 | 9:48 pm on Mar 26, 2002 (gmt 0) |
You will see many updates in the near future, they have admitted that the index may not be as stable, but that's only because they are increasing the numbers of URL's in there index all the time.
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negubon
msg:220053 | 3:46 am on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0) |
How often fast update database?
I submitted a site a month ago but it is not indexed yet.
I think i should wait few days to see another update
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seofan
msg:220054 | 6:54 am on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0) |
One of my sites is showing old page content as description from over 2 years ago. Fast.....but what about accurate? :)
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jimmykav
msg:220055 | 9:27 am on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I am not seeing any changes at the moment
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lazerzubb
msg:220056 | 9:36 am on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0) |
press the refresh button a few times and you will see it.
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jimmykav
msg:220057 | 9:33 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Holy SERPS Batman! Now i see it! a huge change....
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lazerzubb
msg:220058 | 9:40 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
jimmykav, they will have 2 Billion URL's soon
Then you will see huge changes. that's an increase with over 200%
And when it comes to search engine indexes that's HUGE
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jimmykav
msg:220059 | 10:19 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Great stuff lazerzubb! The more the merrier :)
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oLeon
msg:220060 | 10:47 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
From an interview between Martin Schaedel (StarGlobe) and Stephen Baker (FAST): ----------------------------------------------------
It's been reported that FAST doesn't always update their index every
nine to eleven days as they state they do on their site, so I asked
Stephen to tell us a bit about FAST's indexing procedure. He told me
that they currently update 30% of the index every seven days. The
rest of the index gets updated approximately every 28 days, and
they're working to make that even faster. They're also hoping to have 2 billion URLs indexed in the near future.
They currently have over 900 million URLs in the index, and have
validated over 600 million. Right now they're working on crawling
more and more pages in order to validate them and find more data.
This new verified data will get put into the index soon.
----------------------------------------------------------
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caine
msg:220061 | 10:51 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
The question is can FAST give GOOGLE the battle it deserves, which will propell the algo's to near NL processing capabilities.
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brotherhood of LAN
msg:220062 | 10:52 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
hmmmmm after noticing my linkage from fast going down, i now have more incoming links from them. The weird thing is, when I look at them, its the same SERP results for sites in my particular category. Its almost like theirs 2 pages, one template and the other being the same list of sites over and over again. This is about 95% of the extra link pop i see from any sort of FAST update :)
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Brett_Tabke
msg:220063 | 10:54 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Stephen, Brian, Mikkel - is this info on the money?
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caine
msg:220064 | 10:58 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I've just got No.1 for my most competitive kw, bizarre ! we will see if it holds
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lazerzubb
msg:220065 | 11:09 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Martin Schaedel = Lazerzubb :) Yes i think that FAST can compete against Google, but they don't aim for the same things. Many people wonder if Fast’s own search engine site AllTheWeb.com will be a stronger competitive to Google.com in the near future?
NO, and they don’t want to be.
AllTheWeb is a pure show off for new features etc.
Sure they don’t mind people using it, but they make their money from licensing out their solution, not from people doing searches on AllTheWeb.com
Google.com is meant to be a destination site for the surfer.
Alltheweb.com is not. Also Stephen thougth that we would see an increase of Traffic from Lycos, because he thougth they hade made a real upswing in there way of presenting the results, and the site itself looks nicer now. Added: Fast gets about 50 Million queries a day an increasing. (edited by: lazerzubb at 12:41 pm (utc) on Mar. 28, 2002)
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brotherhood of LAN
msg:220066 | 11:10 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
im getting great SERPs in the results, even better than what im used to at google... but the traffic somehow never seems to materialise
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visitor
msg:220067 | 8:15 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Lycos traffic did increase in last a couple of days, but they are, still, very marginal. Google sends me about 1000 visitors/day. MSN sends about 600 visitors/day, and Yahoo sends lower 500's/day. From there, it takes a dive...AOL sending me mid 100's/day...and Lycos sending me about 80 visitors/day. I have great placements at Lycos and FAST. I'll be paying close attention to Lycos...afterall, the trend is positive and upward. Lazerzubb, have you given up on google dance announcement? ;)
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lazerzubb
msg:220068 | 8:24 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
| Lazerzubb, have you given up on google dance announcement? |
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Not that i know of :)
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visitor
msg:220069 | 9:24 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Good...cuz we need you to Offialize the dance;) Have a good weeken Lazerzubb:)
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WebSpinner
msg:220070 | 9:53 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
How many reg. people do we know use alltheweb? I know of none. Most I know say
AOL
Yahoo
Google So does it really matter what ATW does?
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heini
msg:220071 | 9:59 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Webspinner - the thread is about FAST. Fast powers most Lycos portals worldwide, including Lycos.com, and the Lycos.Europe sites. And then some. Alltheweb is, as stated here time and again a mere showcase for Fast - they do not promote Alltheweb. Measuring the importance of Fast by the traffic from Alltheweb is like measuring the importance of Overture by the traffic coming from searches at Overture's site. A good listing at Fast can do something for you, wether you are US based or Euro based.
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papabaer
msg:220072 | 6:51 am on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
My inbound links reported by Fast jumped from 200 to 894 during the last two days. From what I can see they have every single page of my site plus a whole lot of external inbound links. I am not complaining one bit! Fast must be adding pages like crazy!
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lazerzubb
msg:220073 | 9:11 am on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Wait papabaer, i don't think they have begun with the big "one"
:) Add on: for the first time even i has as many inbound links at the FAST db as i have on google, good going.
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heini
msg:220074 | 10:37 am on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Well folks - don't mean to spoil the party here - but we should keep in mind that this huge 2 Bill index has been announced since last november for the near future.
There has been a lot of movement lately in the FAST index - new sites got in, sometimes amazingly fast. Lots of pages got lost. Fast's technical director Knut Magne Risvik said in an interview two weeks ago Fast had now an 800 Mill. index - and would expand to the magic 2 Bill. til the end of Q1. This index including lots of dynamic pages and more deep indexing.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum4/427.htm [webmasterworld.com] Seeing is believing
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budterm
msg:220075 | 2:39 pm on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
This latest update just wiped out all kinds of good positions. How do I check if FAST has dropped the sites from the database?
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heini
msg:220076 | 2:48 pm on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Budterm try Alltheweb advanced search, you can specify which domains the search is restricted to.
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budterm
msg:220077 | 3:44 pm on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Thank you heini.
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papabaer
msg:220078 | 6:14 pm on Mar 29, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Inbound links are up to 994 as of this morning... nice!
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