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Fast update cycles - what's really going on?
heini




msg:223804
 9:53 am on Mar 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Until last November Fast updates came in cycles, just like Google's, only faster.
Then there were delays - attributed to the overhaul of Fast's search technology with new features and an armada of new spiders.

Now we have the news indexing and PartnerSite - both require nearly permanent updating.

There have been many complaints since about Fast's regular updating, but praises on rapid inclusion as well.

Nobody seems to know anyhow when and if Updates take place - do they still come in cycles, are they done permanently?

So lets share experiences and see if we can map the patterns!

 

IanTurner




msg:223805
 10:12 am on Mar 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

My general trend is a two to three month update cycle. (This may only be for .co.uk sites)

Only one of my sites seems to update faster than this.

lazerzubb




msg:223806
 1:40 pm on Mar 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

I agree with you Heini, i have emailed people at Fast asking about this and i don't have that much hope of getting an answer but i still hope.

backus




msg:223807
 2:36 pm on Mar 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Okay, I was updated three weeks ago, then again a week ago. So two week cycle so far. That's .net.

heini




msg:223808
 12:12 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Anybody else? Any European members with massive amounts of pages in Fast?

Ove




msg:223809
 12:17 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

No update. but Lazer post that one of his pages lost all ranking and i have the same problem the url is indexed but all ranking is lost 3 clients pages have lost their ranking too from top results. I dont know whats happening but its strange.

/Ove

jimmykav




msg:223810
 1:39 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am really confused by FAST's antics of late. It has dropped dozens of links to my site and no longer shows the home page in the SERPS.....

Rumbas




msg:223811
 2:08 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I wont be the one to spoil the party, but checking across 20-25 very different domains, I see no major fluctuations or decrease in rankings or index counts.

It would be nice if we knew a little more on the regular updates from Fast though.
When is Full Moon nowadays?
Everyday?

mr_dredd2




msg:223812
 5:37 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

well, sorry to state this again, but on a number of .co.uk's of mine, their results have been slashed on allthweb.com and lycos.com, while remaining constant on lycos.co.uk.

and, now i've just seen that one .com of mine has had its results slashed on lycos.co.uk, but still there on lycos.com and allthweb.com

is this just me??:O

makemetop




msg:223813
 6:01 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've had a few sites go. Paid for spidering and 'hey presto' back on the first page again within 24 hours. There's a surprise ;)

mr_dredd2




msg:223814
 6:54 pm on Mar 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

yikes!!

backus




msg:223815
 2:16 pm on Mar 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well this happened to me a while back. My site was dropped for no reason. Then a few months later and 4 letters of complaint, it's back, and doing better than ever! I think they are removing sites, waiting for you to pay to put them back in, if they see that you are not going to do that, then they'll put you back. You just have to stand your ground for a few months.

lazerzubb




msg:223816
 7:27 am on Mar 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Is there a new update now???

Liane




msg:223817
 8:26 am on Mar 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

backus,

I don't know if that is a fair claim. My main page and 1 of the main sub pages were dropped from All The Web not that long ago. I posted a message on WmW asking what to do and was told to simply resubmit. I did that and at the next update ... the pages were back in the index. I think some pages are dropped simply due to aging. I would resubmit and see what happens before assuming they have their hands out.

Ove




msg:223818
 11:45 am on Mar 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Lazer i dont see any changes not even unstable results.

/Ove

lazerzubb




msg:223819
 12:30 pm on Mar 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ove try presing thee F5 button a few times and you will see it.

backus




msg:223820
 11:45 am on Mar 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

Liane, trust me, I was one of the first users of AlltheWeb.com. I do know to resubmit. But I had actually resubmitted, then complained, then complained, then resubmitted, then complained, and then after 4 months, was back in. No major changes to the site. Also, it wasn't dropped out of the list because of age, trust me.

heini




msg:223821
 11:59 am on Mar 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

Writing to Fast sure is a possibility. But looking at the bigger picture - we're talking an index of nearly 2 Bill. - a deliberate dropping of specific sites? Hard to imagine.

backus




msg:223822
 12:25 pm on Mar 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

I think they are dropping clusters or sites at a time.

mr_dredd2




msg:223823
 10:36 pm on Mar 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

dropped a number of pages in a number of sites - just paid for one sites pages to be included, and low and behold, they are back again with the same ranking.

Brett_Tabke




msg:223824
 5:58 pm on Mar 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Submitted paid pages for a client last week - I've not noticed any changes in ranking or the remaining pages.

mr_dredd2




msg:223825
 11:35 pm on Mar 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

had those pages been dropped brett? Mine were previously dropped (a few days before) - although they were still visible in the index, they had just dropped from the rankings. and they came back to the same ranking positions a day after paying - thats what the change was for my pages.

keywordbuys




msg:223826
 1:53 am on Mar 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'd like to see if my recent submission will bring back my rankings, and give my newly indexed pages a chance on both Fast and Lycos.

FenrisUlv




msg:223827
 10:36 am on Mar 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

According to the Norwegian net site - digi.no, FAST is doing a major upgrading of their index. From 635 to 800 million sites last Friday, and 2000 millions sites by end of Q1. In the interview Knut Magne Risvik, FAST chief developer, says that the new index will include dynamic pages, more pages from each site, and more emphasis on European sites.

heini




msg:223828
 11:37 am on Mar 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi FenrisUlv
Thanks for the info - this statement from Knut Magne Risvik says a lot about what we have seen happening with FAST since December.

Jumping from ~800 Mill to ~2000 Mill from March to April....imagine hardware and heads are smoking up in Norway.

Ove




msg:223829
 11:42 am on Mar 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

That explanes alot

imagine hardware and heads are smoking up in Norway :-)))

/Ove

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