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What are the best methods to improve rankings?
I need some help please!

 6:39 pm on Aug 3, 2001 (gmt 0)


I have done a great job with some of the other SE's for a few keywords. But now I would like to focus on Fast.

I manage a dynamic site and a bunch of doorway pages. Which methods are other webmasters using to make the top 10 on Fast?

I need to know what works.

I need some help!



 7:52 pm on Aug 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

I don't know if you have been properly welcomed to the boards, Rugles, but Welcome!

I noticed the other day on a non-competitive keyword that all of the top pages in Fast were small.

Dang small.

Like under 11 K. Most being around 6 to 7 K.

It surprised me a lot. I knew search engines preferred pages 20 K or less, but I didn't know they liked pages *that* small.

Because the phrase was not competitive, I knew, I was probably looking at pages that were not cloaked: I saw what the spider saw.



 8:16 pm on Aug 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

I know some people here donīt see it that way but for me Fast optimization is pretty much like Google optimization.
On most KWs I have quite similar rankings. (well, that was true before July 7)
Since I donīt do doorways, cloaking, hidden this and that to me it comes down to
- good content
- good links (inner structure and quality inbound links)
- good site structure ( "themeing" )

oh, just saw a #4 in a very competitive search with 59 kB, #6 having 1,1 kB.


 10:36 am on Aug 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

I agree with Heini, that google and fast are somewhat similar.

Hi Rugles,

I am against you on the doorway pages, i don't believe they are doing anyone any favours, except for you.

Drawing back to what Heini said.
Google and Fast for me are about the following.

Title is critical, very critical. say its a page for x-product, depending on what sort of image you what the site to have to the user.

For deep pages on products, the following works for me.

X-product, (plural variations), (case variations) by Y company (remember title length considerations)

next has to be the url carrying the product title.

[Y-company.com...] (asp, possibly in your case). (many arguments about - or _ I'm not sure which is better.

next is content with these engines (forget meta's)
at least 18%+ for the x-product in frequency.
pages as -G said around 20k - max 37k.

That would be a good start.


 11:58 am on Aug 5, 2001 (gmt 0)

Titles are much important. Also since Fast does not yet cluster results. I want to mention (again :) ) that one of my sites gets all top ten positions for a given keyword. 8 of thoses are framesets with 4 to 12k of goodies in the NOFRAMES erea.


 4:57 pm on Aug 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

Page size might be the key with Fast, one of my sites has a page that is in top 10 for all of the keywords it is optimized for in Google. But this same page is nowhere to be found in Fast. Page size is 17k.


 4:06 am on Aug 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

anyone seeing a boost to pages with a lot of links on the page?


 4:37 am on Aug 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

All the sites that were in my links pages on my site are now populating the top spots in the serps under my keyword.

Go figure...I got booted by my own device.


 6:51 am on Aug 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

I have that listed as part of the algo. Fast likes outbound links on a page.

Are the links coming from an established site?
eg: major directory listings.
And, how many words are in the anchor on average?


 3:05 pm on Aug 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

What is up with Fast, they seem to be showing pages at least 3 month old and no index.htm page for the root of our site in their index.

Submitted the index.htm 8 days ago they came, did only five hits and left, although all pages on the site are interlinked and well optimized for Google. What can it be is their spider choking on pages 10k plus?


 3:38 pm on Aug 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

Are the links coming from an established site?
eg: major directory listings.
And, how many words are in the anchor on average?

They are all Zeus generated Title and desc type links. I picked them by keyword in title and desc and url. Fast does too.

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