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IP in E-Mail header...

 12:46 pm on Feb 13, 2001 (gmt 0)


I keep getting fraudulant orders on my site. They are VERY easy to spot and I have set my CC gateway to authorize only to keep these from going through. I have heard of pulling out an e-mail header and getting information like the IP. I am embarrassed but how do you "view" the header of an E-Mail?




 1:27 pm on Feb 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

In outlook hit "view, options" the bottom of the dialog box is the header. I hate to sound like a Sam Spade [samspade.org] evengelist but it has a feature where you can copy the header in and it'll parse it for you. Thats found under the tools menu. ;)


 6:09 pm on Feb 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

Same in (shudder) Netscape?


P.S. Thanks for the quick response.


 6:28 pm on Feb 13, 2001 (gmt 0)



 8:14 pm on Feb 13, 2001 (gmt 0)

Rightous BH. Thanks again :).



 5:51 pm on Feb 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

IP won't always be in there from the sender - usually just the gateway or isp used.


 12:55 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

This is a bit different from fraudulent orders, but it's related.

Apparently every email address on my sites has been harvested, and I am getting spam messages - the same identical ones, for web hosting - forwarded to each of the addresses on the sites from different email addresses all over Europe and a couple from the Middle East.

These emails are being forwarded and coming through the web host's server, and if I go to File>Properties in Outlook Express and look under the details tab, all the IP numbers are right there - don't know if the ones appearing will work.

Now it's too late, because they already have the addresses, but I think maybe the best preventive solution for the future might be to dig out info on email harvesting spiders and either exclude them or find a script I saw that sends unwanted spiders into a "black hole." Also, I seem to vaguely recall some way to "hide" the email addresses on a site.

Any clues on how to implement any of these solutions or what to do to handle situations like this?


 1:21 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)


I am trying a little javascript I picked up which is supposed to stop harvesters. I may have picked it up here, can't remember.

Not sure if it works or not, no spam as yet but they may not have tried. It's the ol' "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" trick.

Perhaps some of the scripting experts will venture an opinion.

<script language="JavaScript"><!--
var name = "PUT NAME HERE";
var domain = "PUT DOMAIN HERE";
document.write('<a href=\"mailto:' + name + '@' + domain + '\">');
document.write(name + '@' + domain + '</a>');
// --></script>



 1:49 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

>the ol' "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" trick.
LOL that's a good one!

Woz, you're talking to the wrong person with Javascript - all those dits and twiddles drive me crazy. I would be very happy if it were possible to do these things in COBOL - you can "think" in that language.

Sure, if it would work, I'd use it.


 4:59 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

If you're hosted on an Apache server, a quick and dirty trick for blocking assorted robots is here [bignosebird.com], and check here for a version of the "black hole" [bignosebird.com] trick. Although somewhat dated, this page [mosa.unity.ncsu.edu] offers more in depth info similar to the first page suggested.


 5:09 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

Xoc started another thread at [webmasterworld.com...] on dealing with spam. His post suggests a link that has "something for everyone." Let's continue this discussion there...

Edited by: DaveAtIFG


 5:20 pm on Feb 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

ah, ok! how did I miss that one. Thanks.

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