| 3:10 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yes. Here's another weirdo...
You might want to take a look into "Who's On" by Parker Software. It's basically a graphic interface to who visits your site(s) right now, including paths and repeat visits and some basic tracking and statistics.
Its geo-targeting is a bit buggy right now and I give Steve a hard time on this, but the software itself is reasonably priced and gives you a very good overview of what's happening.
| 3:28 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I'm glad to here there's someone else that finds real-time stats entertaining. I checked out that software but it's only Win compatible :( I run OS X and SuSE.
| 3:49 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I have a friend who runs a crontab tailing his logs. It also pipes the results through various filters and automatically emails him when it finds something of interest.
Seems a bit nerdy to me.
| 4:00 pm on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I do something like the above where I stream the logs into a bunch of filters.
-I know exactly when, where, and what a spider is doing on my sites :)
-Lets me know if there's a error on the site at all when pages are loading
Works very well for me :)
| 11:03 pm on Mar 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
You sound like that guy on the Nebacanezzer who watches the matrix through the streaming code.
| 12:44 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Actually it is a bit like that...
Hey, did anyone ever watched a live tcpdump stream? It's in a way hypnotizing...
| 12:54 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
You all may be in need of getting out a lttle more ;-)
| 4:05 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
tcpdump stream... yeah! It still amazes me to see visitors in real-time. Get out more..... this is as entertaining as it gets.
| 6:05 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|You all may be in need of getting out a lttle more ;-) |
By the time I got to this I was thinking much the same!
Yes I have watched the access in real time, but only when analysing a DoS attack.
| 6:14 pm on Mar 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
gotta love tail'ing logs
watchin mail bounce around, apache logs, all of it, we use syslog a fair bit and even that is interesting.
I have watched tcpdump's too, fascinating stuff.
The benefit of all this is that it gives you a better understanding of what data is acquired and helps you see what all of your stats analysis programs are actually interpreting.
I would suggest watching logs as a basic excercise for any person who works with web sites.
| 9:30 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I have tried “Who's On" by Parker Software. You can see exactly what is going on your site in real time. The software looks very nice but still a bit buggy.
Does anybody know of a similar product but which is more stable?
| 10:37 am on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Unfortunately no. That's why I try to bug Steve Parker to get moving :-)
As for "getting out more often". Actually I do get out quite often, having family with two little rascals who prevent any form of lazyness. Nevertheless, watching live stats is quite interesting, hypnotizing and - in a way - soothing,
| 2:41 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Do you lot every tie an old cine film from one washing line to another, look down a toilet paper tube at the film and run along to the end?
...just checking sanity levels.
| 2:45 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Does anybody know of a similar product but which is more stable? |
I'm testing a product right now called VisitorVille. It's SimCity for tracking and logging. Really cool stuff. ;)
Testing stability issues now and over the next few weeks.
| 2:51 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
VisitorVille is cool, but I doubt that one will continue using it once a few weeks have passed. It's more appealing to the toy/gizmo lover who has room in his budget for software. I assume it collects dust once the novelty wears off. I could very well imagine having it running on a seperate screen and ocassionaly glimpsing at it. But for me it has no real use.
Do me a favor, take a look at Who's On at let me know which of the two you still use after a few weeks.
| 3:06 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Do me a favor, take a look at Who's On at let me know which of the two you still use after a few weeks. |
No need to do the "few weeks" thing. I've viewed the features list and I don't see a whole lot there. It's a very simple interface that shows you who's on the site.
<added> There are more features there, they are just buried a bit. Haven't done a full view under the hood.
What really appealed to me when first considering VV was the fact that the VV code is valid out of the box, no tinkering to escape characters, etc. It is also very lightweight.
I'll agree that the novelty of it wears off after a bit. But, when used together with the Live Help feature, the novelty becomes an integral part of the process.
I'm sitting here now looking at a city that has over 800 buildings. Each building represents a page on the site. There are buses carrying search engine visitors all over the site right now. There are police cruisers, fire trucks, taxi-cabs and a bunch of people just bustling about.
I can right click a bus and see the passengers. I can click on one of the passengers and see their profile which gives me all sorts of information about their system, IP address, etc.
It's basically a gaming package for your stats! :)
| 3:11 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I did this last night with tail -f -s 0.1 *.log for the first time, and I was amazed at exactly how much my servers were serving.
| 3:15 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
That sounds like a fun little program, I really must check it out. Yes, I can see where the novelty would wear off to a certain extent (just like the SIM games) but what a great way to get a quick view of the organics of your site function.
| 7:52 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Problem is, you HAVE to watch it! Unlike a stats package, it's LIVE. If you miss something, you missed it.
pageone: I forgot about the Chat feature. That's actually how I got "hooked" by all this. We used (and still use) LivePerson (HumanClick) for Chat for many years already (actually we used it already back when the basic service was free of charge). We implemented it for chat, but it had sort of a live view as well, and that was great for checking results of email blasts, news releases etc or just for seeing referring sites shift.
Being basically not happy with LivePerson anymore (price/value ratio not right anymore), I started to look for something else. But all other packages I found did not have the live-view feature. That's how I ended up with Who'sOn (which incidentally has a chat feature as well which we don't use).
VisitorVille survived for 2 days on my machine: I got too distracted, my co-workers got too distracted, and it gave no real benefit. Plus I found it rather high priced.
| 8:51 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
It certainly does seem a little spendy compared to other packages I've looked at. Granted they had much less entertainment value.
I don't think you are stuck with "live" only thought. It looked to me like you can select a timeperiod and play the "stats" whenever you want.
I don't know if I'll end up using it but I may try it out for a month just to get a feel for it.
| 11:24 pm on Mar 14, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Problem is, you HAVE to watch it! Unlike a stats package, it's LIVE. If you miss something, you missed it. |
Not with VV. There is a VCR feature and you can playback whatever you like. ;)
|I don't think you are stuck with "live" only thought. It looked to me like you can select a timeperiod and play the "stats" whenever you want. |
You are correct, you can replay the stats. There is both a hosted version and a version you can use to read your log files. It works either way.
Pricing starts at $4.95 USD per month. Not too pricey. It is pretty much inline with most other live stats programs when you get into the larger traffic numbers. The pricing plan is also based on unique visitors and not page views.
| 2:29 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I wish they had a one time purchase option just for looking at the log files. I don't really care if I see the stats "live" but I'd love the interface for replaying the logs for the past week or month. That doesn't seem to be an option.
| 4:05 pm on Mar 15, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Instead of hosted, you can go for an installabla package. That's actually the (rather high priced) one I had in mind.
| 8:12 pm on Mar 16, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Gee if you have that much free time on your hands, why not write some content instead :)
| 9:49 pm on Mar 16, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I use tail all the time when some twit starts offloading my pages to china, norway or somewhere.
As a matter of fact some idiot tried it at 1am PST the other night.
He overloaded my server being greedy grabbing too many pages simultaneously, so the server sent me an alarm and he was blacklisted inside of 10 minutes of the start of the download attempt thanks to tail :)
| 10:42 pm on Mar 17, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I took a look at whoson, but I don't have access to my live logs via ftp. I do via scp, it would be nice if it had that option. Hopefully they will add that as an option one day.
I used this command to watch the live visitors without all the image files showing up, works good for me: tail -f logfile ¦grep -iv ".jpg\¦.gif"
| 11:15 pm on Mar 17, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yes, me too!