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Live Stats 5.0
How does it Compare to Webtrends

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Msg#: 170 posted 7:36 pm on Jul 25, 2001 (gmt 0)

I have used Webtrends before and was promised it when i signed up with my host, (whole another issue i am trying to resolve) but I was given Live Stats 5.0.

What I was wondering is how it compares to Webtrends? Are there things it does not have that Webtrends has? Conversely are there things or options on Live Stats that are not on Webertain?

Any info would be appreciated.




10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 7:37 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

Does anybody here use Live Stats?


WebmasterWorld Senior Member agerhart us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 7:39 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)


sorry noone has responded to your post....usually we are quicker than this.

I personally do not use Live Stats, I use Web Trends, but I am looking for something a little bit better.

Is Live Stats free? I know a good free one, I think it is called HitBox


10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 8:32 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

I use Livestats but unfortunately I dont know Webtrends so dont know how much help I can be.
The package itself does seem to do all the usual stuff but I do use MSAccess on logfiles to get IP addresses. The Watches in the 'virtual Admin' area are well worth the setup effort. These let you watch and track visiters by IP and URL or track links(out) via the Click-Thru Watch which seems to be ideal for reseller links.
I got lots of info on Livestats from the Fasthosts (abuse) forum but this may not be relevant as much of discussion is based around their particular setup.

Forum URL


10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 10:17 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

First of all thanks for the response. I understand not many people probably have used both before. I know Webtrends is very popular, and that is the stat software I am more familiar with.

agerhart, thanks for the response, Live Stats is not free, but it is considerable less than Webtrends. I am not sure if it is better because I just got it and haven't explored the whole package yet.

Halfloaf, since you have Live Stats, can I find out how well I am doing from Search Engines, in other words I know Webtrends has a section that shows you your daily traffic coming in specifically from search engines, this would be particularly great to have?

Also does Live Stats allow you to track the most common paths thru the site?

I agree the Watches do look great, I just need to see a couple of examples of how to set one up, I will be looking for that in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your help.



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Msg#: 170 posted 11:19 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

Below is a sample of the reporting tools for live stats 5.0. I love the program myself, but I have never used anything else.

Usage by

• Analysis
• Sessions
• Hits
• Page Views
• Kilobytes
• Session Time
• Bytes/Session
• Hits/Session

Pages by

• Analysis
• Usage Map
• Page Views
• Downloads
• Download Errors
• Least Views
• Entry Point
• Exit Point
• Viewed Once
• Time Spent
• Page View Errors
• Directory

Browsers by

• Analysis
• Agent Type
• User OS
• Browser Tag
• New Tags

Referrers by

• Analysis
• New URLs
• Domain
• Search Eng
• Keyword


10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 11:25 pm on Jul 26, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi Jason

Livestats allows you to see entry/exit page counts and other tracking related stats in the 'pages by' section and you have some referral stats in the 'referrer by' section (this seems to be poor and out of date on my Livestats).
The Watches are pretty easy to set up but are a labour intensive exorcise.

You can use the Spider IP’s from searchengineworld and from the virtual admin (or yours may be Global Admin) Click: Watches > Create New Watch > New IP Watch then fill in a name for ‘Displayable title’ (AV204.123.9.*) and ‘IP Address to Watch’ (204.123.9.*) click the ‘keep detailed event log’ check box and submit update and you now have a watch for all IP’s visiting from to 255 (* = any number of digits and ? = 1 digit).

You can watch doorways on your site by setting up URL watches on them this can be handy because it keeps the data needed to track this stuff on the same page instead of having to check separate pages for each kind of data for any given page.

Doing all/some of the spiders in fairly big IP blocks using the Wildcards took me all day but it is almost impossible using the existing stats to track where any spider has been. If you are installing Livestats yourself maybe there is a quicker method not open to me.

I am in here most days so post any more questions and I will get back to you ASAP.



10+ Year Member

Msg#: 170 posted 12:56 pm on Jul 27, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks pmac and halfloaf for your help, i really appreciate it. I do like how you can receive an email of the previous day's stats and previous month's if you want.

I know there are probably some very powerful features I have not even tapped yet.

Is there a way to find unique visitors? Is that under the sessions tab?

And also is there a user manual I can find somewhere for help with it?


click watcher

Msg#: 170 posted 10:02 am on Jul 31, 2001 (gmt 0)

here is the manual for live stats


ps. to the mod of this forum ... i notice in the charter discuss/url's of specific software disallowed but as this thread several days old thought it ok to reference the user manual.

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